http://theundefeated.com/features/isaiah-hartenstein-nba-draft-2017/
He doesn’t look Black at all. I can see how folks would feel comfortable making inappropriate statements around him.
I can’t see how someone would be comfortable making inappropriate statements at all.
@skieurope yet it happens all the time. Sigh
Oh, I’m well aware of it. My BF is mixed race and sees/hears it all the time, unfortunately.
Not only his “looks” but his last name, Hartenstein … LOL! Not a typical African American name. I have heard antisemetic comments from people who don’t know I am Jewish. Last name is not at all Jewish.
And sometimes people make inappropriate statements to the face of the mixed-race or black person. People made racist comments to my nephew while he was doing his job.
Not surprising at all, I have friends who are for example half asian, who have names that are non asian sounding (like John Smith, actually knew someone like that), and talking to someone on the phone at work got a whole earful of anti asian ranting…
Doesn’t surprise me, despite all the stuff about the US being beyond race, how the days of Jim Crow and other things are ‘of the past’, what has happened is that in ‘polite society’ it no longer is acceptable in many places to say the kind of things that once were routinely said. But with someone they feel 'safe with, for example with someone they think is a fellow white person, a lot of really ugly things can come out, there is a lot of stuff left unsaid out there until an opportune moment happens.
I am lily white but Hispanic and Roma. I have never, ever been the victim of racism (and never will be) but some people feel totally comfortable making anti-Hispanic comments around me.I also try to explain to people that the word “gypped” and that dressing like “Gypsies” at Halloween are both extremely racist.
I have no problem confronting people (again, because I have an extreme amount of privilege due to the color of my skin) and almost without fail get told that I’m being too sensitive and that they’re “just joking.” Sigh
I actually had no idea the term gypped was related to gypsies. Good to know (i think I’ve used the term from time to time - definitely am not a person who knowingly uses racist terms 
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Racist comments behind closed doors don’t only happen among white persons.
@sorghum:
I am sure people of other races say things behind closed doors, or people who claim to be tolerant about gays, etc, but when it comes to race in the US whites still are dominant in society in many cases and that supposed color blindness and the like may only be skin deep, and if a black person in private says nasty thing about whites, it won’t exactly change the fact that politics and corporate governance and the like is still mostly the provence of whites (usually men), that blacks and Asians and most denigrated minorities making racist statements in private has little to no effect on most whites, whereas a white person who harbors that kind of prejudice still has a lot of the power that can hurt those they are racist against, in politics and who they vote for and in things like hiring for a job, hiring a contractor, or where they live shrug.
he must be rachael dozel’s cousin.
number 8- “(again, because I have an extreme amount of privilege due to the color of my skin)” you should spend more time off a college campus in the bubble/echo chamber.
and number 11 again that maybe your personal take on this subject but your opinion is not shared by many people outside of college campuses like Berkley , Brown.and like minded echo chambers.
@Zobroward : I fail to understand what you think your comments contribute to this thread. #8 was a very honest comment that did not warrant your sarcasm. At least, I will assume that was what you were trying for. And #11 made a very significant point that you appear to be attempting to trivialize with your reference to “echo chambers.” Oh, and maybe learn how to spell Berkeley if you want to criticize us.
I have a very different view/opinion and life experience. I am simply pointing out that those opinions are not gospel…just opinions and maybe popular in the group think/ echo chambers of many college campuses but are not shared among many folks. .
what I fail to understand is that you think because my views are different… they somehow do not add to the thread. only people who share your opinion contribute? I think not.
"And #11 made a very significant point that you appear to be attempting to trivialize " sure for you. but to me it is way off. I spent 4 years on a college campus and I can recite these type of things verbatim. they are not based in reality(my opinion I get my opinion you gets yours. Cool concept don’t you agree?).
Then why don’t you express what you disagree with and why instead of comments about “bubble/echo chambers”? I don’t live in an urban area nor on a college campus and those comments ring true to me. Perhaps you are in your own little bubble/echo chamber with the folks you choose to pal around with and what “news” you choose to consume.
doschcicos I am a civil libertarian and strongly believe in self determination and Individualism . and I think it is more than a safe assumption to say that many college campuses have been over run by intimidation, fear, group think and are an echo chamber in which only one view is accepted. I live in an urban area and it does not change my view of people. (most of the people I know work with/live with do not know or care about power/privilege/ etc etc…they are trying to make ends meet , fix the last fight they had with their girlfriend and coming up with the back money they owe on child support) I do not know many folks reading about colonialism, socialism or free markets…I do…and if I was on a college campus in 2017 I would be afraid to express my opinions…a decade ago many people would debate in and out of class and it was enjoyable…those days are long gone .
You just state you have not been on a college campus in a long while yet you attest to KNOW the culture on these campuses.
And nobody insinuated you don’t have a right to your opinion rather folks ask you not act condescending or patronizing. Give it a try…
never said I have not been on a college campus in a long time. where did you see that? I have not been a student for a while. I now am in the real world.
and there was nothing condescending or patronizing. I get the drill…say something not part of the group think and what you say is not relevant, off topic, trivializing , condescending, patronizing etc etc. trying to pivot away from my opinion and make it about the person is often an effective tactic. however I read saul alinsky’s rules for radicals and I have learned all the in’s and outs .
getting berated for challenging the common belief system among many on college confiendtional is par for the course.
maybe you should not do that…Give it a try…
College Confidential and Berkeley…