Some questions about American colleges

<p>Some questions about American colleges:</p>

<p>I know that a typical college course in United States is completed in 4 years. I want to know how may terms make for a single year. Besides, what is meant by fall and spring terms? </p>

<p>What goes on in a term? How classes are distributed throughout the term?
What if someone fails a term? What does that mean? What options does he have after failing? Is it possible that someone fail a year? What happens then?</p>

<p>Please also tell me something about majors and minors.</p>

<p>What are community colleges meant for? How are they different from universities</p>

<p>Typical college “year” is either (a) a semester system where the semester is 16 weeks (classes during 15, final exams in the last week), one beginning in August (fall term), ending in December and the other in Jan ending in May (the spring term); or (b) a quarter system (sometimes referred to as a “trimester” system) where you go for three 11 week sessions (classes for 10, finals in last), the first usually beginning September and the last ends in in June, although some with quarter system begin in August and end in May. Colleges generally also have one or often two summer sessions where you can take some courses but when they refer to a “4-year” program, they are not including summer school, which many students take to either accelerate their graduation date or, if, particularly in engineering, to actually have a chance of even graduating in four years.</p>

<p>You take courses during each semester or quarter. In a semester system a typical course is 3 (and some 4 or 5) “hours” of credit meaning, essentially, that is the number of hours you get counted toward a degree and is also the number of hours you attend class for that course per week (although for some, such as science and engineering classes you may have to attend more hours per week to get that 3 hours credit). A typical semester course load is 15 hours, which is often 5 courses, but it can range from 12 to 18 hours and still be considered a full-time student. You usually need 120 or more (and often 10 to 20 more for engineering) semester credit hours to graduate. In a quarter system, you often get 3 hours of credit but go 4 hours a week for a course, and as a result have fewer total credit hours in the quarter than for a semester system but by end of year the count ends up being about the same because you are going three sessions rather than two. There are variations on these – colleges may count each three hour per week course as only 1 credit toward graduation, but of course require a lot less total credits to graduate, or, particular in a quarter system, colleges may count a course that is 4 hours per week as 4 credit hours and the result is that the number of total credits needed to graduate will be significantly higher than that 120 range for the semester system. </p>

<p>You get graded in each course (although you may have some pass/fail options rather than a grade, e.g., at MIT that applies to your freshman year). Your grade often depends on one or two exams during the session plus a final, but often some portion of your grade also depends on quizzes given, homework assignments, and in labs the lab work done. You fail any course and you get zero credit for it and may have to take it again if it is a required course for your major; if you fail or even get D’s in enough courses, your GPA will fall below the minimum required, usually a 2 on a 4 point scale (where an A is 4, B 3, C 2, D 1, F 0), and you will be put on probation, or if it falls low enough, you will be told to leave. </p>

<p>Majors (sometimes called something else like “concentrations”) are your chosen principal course work, e.g., chemistry, physics, history, a couple hundred others. What that means is that during the four years, you will need to complete a lot of required courses in that chosen major to get a bachelors degree at graduation, but usually you will also have to complete a lot of other courses; for example, colleges usually have a “general education requirement” where, besides courses for your major, you must take a variety of courses in humanties, social science, sometimes language, and science and math. Minors are a concentration in another area, e.g., if a physics major, you might minor in math, and generally require a certain number of courses to be completed in the minor which is fewer than what is needed for a major.</p>

<p>Community Colleges are generally colleges that have two-year programs, which would be the first two years of a 4 year college, are spread about so that you can usually find one near where you live so you can attend while living at home, and many desiring a four year degree go to one of those first and then attempt a transfer to a four year college effective third year. Many try the community college route because of finances, because their high school record may not be good enough to be admitted to a four year college they might want to attend (community colleges generally have very low minimums for admission), because they just want to try taking courses first to decide whether they want to continue with college, and a variety of other reasons. Also, community colleges usually have their own two year programs such as in health services, technical jobs, others where employment does not depend on having a four year degree. Going to a community college does not guarantee you will be accepted as a transfer to a four year college after you complete your two years at the CC.</p>

<p>Thanks Drusba,It was really helpful. Though I have still some confusions. Suppose, I want to join a B.S. Can you now specifically explain taking the instance of B.S. all the questions that I asked?</p>

<p>For eg. What can be the possible majors and minors for such a course?
Suppose I fail a semester, so what options do I have still remaining? Can I compensate by joining summer classes? Should I join a CC?
Can one change majors after failing a semester? etc…
Is there anything like failing a whole year? Or its just that you fail a semester.
In India, a college year is a complete year.(except in engineering) You take a final exam at the end of the year. If you fail that, you repeat.</p>

<p>Hi!</p>

<p>I’d recommend reading the following documents:</p>

<p><a href=“http://educationusa.state.gov/undergrad/pubs/iywts1.pdf[/url]”>http://educationusa.state.gov/undergrad/pubs/iywts1.pdf&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://educationusa.state.gov/graduate/pubs/iywts2.pdf[/url]”>http://educationusa.state.gov/graduate/pubs/iywts2.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>They helped me a lot with understanding the American system.</p>

<p>The course you take for your major depends on your major. But im guessing since you are looking at a B.S perhpas alot of math and science.</p>

<p>If you are failing a course you could still get out of it but they have a certain date. </p>

<p>If you could not get out of the course before the drop date then yes you could repeat during summer.</p>

<p>I personally do not like the CC option. If you cannot get into the University of your choice go in as a non degree. That way you will not feel like such an outsider compared to if you went in your 3rd year of college. After 2 years or 60 credits just transfer into a degree program at the school.</p>

<p>You get a new set of classes each semester so no there is no chance of failing the entire year unless you pick very hard classes. You take a midterm and final each semester depending on the prof. Every thing including the grading scale depends on the prof. I go to a school where we have the +/- system but some profs dont use it.</p>

<p>“Going to a community college does not guarantee you will be accepted as a transfer to a four year college after you complete your two years at the CC”</p>

<p>Unless you live in Florida. If you go to the CC’s here, you get your Associate of Arts degree and one university HAS to take you. Or so I’ve been told.</p>

<p>Yes polkadot_heart, that is correct, if you get your AA you are guaranteed a spot at a public Florida university, most opt to UFlorida or Florida State.</p>

<p>Ok, could you tell me what courses you have taken up? Like those of you doing B.A or B.S. can you just tell me what all courses you have taken up? It helps to have an idea.</p>

<p>Besides, I need to know a few more things –

  1. What does it mean to fail a year? What options do you have after it?
    2.If you fail a semester, could you change majors?</p>

<p>and yeah.what does it mean being put on probation?
Thanks</p>

<p>Well I’m working on an Associate of Arts degree right now to transfer so I can get my Bachelor of Arts. Every state is different, just by a little bit. Most states make you take your “core” classes the first two years, basically your maths, English, humanities/arts, social sciences (like sociology, economics), and things of that nature. </p>

<p>I know that here in FL we deal with something called the “Gordon Rule” which is a number of written words that we have to have by the time we graduate. I think it’s somewhere around 24,000 total. The two English classes we take (Freshman Comp Skills 1 and 2) cover 6000, and then we have to take a few 4000 word courses. We HAVE to take a Health class, and we are required 2 Social Science courses, 2 Humanities courses, a Biological science, a Physical sciene, 2 Math courses, 1 Foreign Language, and about 24 more credits of electives (anything we want). </p>

<p>Generally the last two years of the Bachelors program are dedicated to what your major is. For example: I want to be a speech major, so my junior and senior years of the program will involve me taking almost all of the courses that I need to be a speech major.</p>

<p>Honestly: if you have more questions about what classes you’re taking for a BA/BS, just type in some random university and start clicking on the Academics department, look for Majors, and just click on the programs. They should all go in detail at least saying what classes you need in order to graduate with a Bachelors of Arts or Bachelors of Science.</p>

<p>To answer your other questions (the best I can)

  1. Here it wouldn’t be failing a year, it would be failing a semester. Nothing really goes in years anymore, all that matters is the 16 or so weeks that make up each semester. If your grade point average drops below a certain number, a person could be either kicked out of the college or put on an academic warning. To get on academic probation, most universities don’t want a person’s GPA falling below 2.0. If a student is at risk for failing, then they get put on the academic warning. Probation basically means that if your GPA falls below 2.0 in the next semester: you’re done at that college.
  2. You can change majors anytime you want to. If you’re failing classes that are part of your prospective major: then it might be a good idea to switch. </p>

<p>I hope I helped out a little bit :)</p>

<p>Aww…Polka. It really helped. Now the American concept is quite clear to me. Thanks a lot.</p>

<p>No problem at all Dinnie :slight_smile: If you have anymore questions, just ask</p>