<p>are there co-ed frats?</p>
<p>hundreds of people don’t crash… usually only a dozen or so… pretty much everyone sobers up and leaves… and whoever does stay helps clean up in the morning… and we don’t have parties at my apartment… i lived on campus, and i live on a dry campus… always at a friends house… which is huge… and yeah, what’s wrong with having a dj in one room and bands in another? dj’s are more for people who want to dance… bands are for people who want to kick back and listen to some music (or play some music for that matter) i’m finding it funny that you think i’m making all this up… just because thing’s like that don’t happen where you guys go to school…</p>
<p>and when most of your friends (myself included) play instruments, it’s easy to get bands to play for free… they’d be at the party anyway… might as well pick up a guitar and play some music. same with the kid who dj’s.</p>
<p>scandal - my one roommate was in a co-ed honors frat… i don’t know if you consider that to be a frat or not.</p>
<p>lol - co-ed frats? lol.</p>
<p>ps: back to the sorority thing…another good thing about sororities that choose based on looks is that they keep FAT CHICKS OUT. :)</p>
<p>Greek = buying friends, no doubt.</p>
<p>Here’s a google cache of a great article from an insider of the disgusting Greek system:
<a href=“http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:jx6SnLWVNdkJ:www.dailybruin.com/db/archivedarticles.asp%3FID%3D1315%26date%3D10/5/2000+daily+bruin+sorority+deactivate&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a[/url]”>http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:jx6SnLWVNdkJ:www.dailybruin.com/db/archivedarticles.asp%3FID%3D1315%26date%3D10/5/2000+daily+bruin+sorority+deactivate&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1&client=firefox-a</a></p>
<p>neverborn, how can you say that “greek=buying friends, no doubt”?</p>
<p>At my school, kids in the greek system tend to be the most sociable and popular to begin with. Maybe not where you go, I guess.</p>
<p>that article may reflect the author’s sorority, not all sororities are like that. Also, fraternities are very different from sororities when they select members.</p>
<p>First of all, it totally and completely depends. A Greek Community doesn’t have to be a horrific sight if the university in which it is situated has a large student population. Many larger publics and privates are widely recognized and known to accept students of extremely high quality. In turn, even those who join Fraternities and Sororities must possess a certain level of appropriate intelligence.</p>
<p>It is true that you must pay dues in order to be a member of a Greek Organization. However, this money goes towards house privileges (meals, study rooms, etc), social events (charter busses, venue use, special meals), and house retreats (camp sites, cabin reservations, beach houses).</p>
<p>If you rush correctly, you will come to understand that it is truly a mutual selection process. If your goal is to win a spot in the <em>most popular</em> sorority, then you will probably end up taking very little from your experience. No matter how prestigious or hard working the student body at your university may be, there will always be the sororities that are known to house dim witted, promiscuous, name-brand ladies. But sorority life is much more than that. When you click with a house, and you join for the right reasons, it is hard to ever regret your decision to go Greek. </p>
<p>I am currently pledging a fabulous sorority at my university, and let me tell you, despite being considered pretty feminine and decent looking, I never thought I would join a Greek house. But I am so glad I did. My sorority provides me with a safe haven from the craziness that college entails; my sisters are all so talented and eager to share their interests with the girls in the house. We are also very committed to academics, and religiously hold organized study hours each week. We are devoted to our surrounding community and beyond, making sure to participate in many volunteer events.</p>
<p>Our reputation is important to us, and while we do hold exchanges with surrounding fraternities and organize our own chartered invitational events, we make sure we take care of ourselves and each other. Sorority girls can be a little outrageous with the right amount of alcohol in their systems, but by no means does this make all sorority girls automatic sluts. We all risk coming off as a total idiot when we’re drinking, so this simply does not apply.</p>
<p>I think that in order to truly understand the Greek system, one must participate in it first hand. There are so many stereotypes and negative comments made about a tradition that has been adding to the college experience for many generations. I really hate when people generalize and let Hollywood mess with their perceptions…</p>
<p>Anyway, that is just my .02</p>
<p><3,</p>
<p>Izzie Bear</p>
<p>I agree.</p>
<p>my fraternity’s brothers listen to radiohead, not country music.</p>
<p>Wow, some of you sound pretty bitter about the Greek system.</p>
<p>I’m in a fraternity at UCLA and it’s possibly the best choice I made here. Whoever said that it’s “buying friends” doesn’t know what he/she is talking about. Yes, you have to pay, but how else will the house pay for its bills and food? My house has a top notch chef who cooks up steak and shrimp one night and then Korean BBQ the next. And live-in costs including dues only total up to about $9000. Now compare that to living in the dorms (10,000 to 12,000) or living in an apartment. Christ, what is wrong with you haters.</p>
<p>The best part about the fraternity is indeed the brotherhood. Sure we like to drink and party hard but the brothers adhere to strong principles and codes of honor. Honor is a BIG ideology upheld in the house. We do not compromise our dignity, self-respect, and principles. Yea, maybe we get a little rowdy and pick fights. But we take pride in our code and our house-upbringing to mold boys into real men of the likes of Gregory Peck.</p>
<p>Now take that into consideration before you spout off about the fraternities like you know them. “Buying friends,” what a joke.</p>
<p>Sorority girls are the ones who are uncomfortable with themselves and think it’s the only way to fit in. They also tend to be drinkers and sluts.</p>
<p>Same deal goes for frat boys.</p>
<p>Don’t pay for your friends, find them yourself! God gave you a brain and the ability to socialize so go out and use it! And remember if you buy friends, you’ll wind up killing your body and mind in the process (heavy drinking is a part of like every Geek organization)</p>
<p>There are some things money can’t buy and one of them is friends. Spend it on something better like clothes or a car or a big TV.</p>
<p>MacTech - that comment was so narrow minded it’s not even funny.</p>
<p>By the way, thank you for calling me a slut, and proclaming that I am uncomfortable with myself.</p>
<p>Get real.</p>
<p>IzzieBear hooked up with me last night and damn it was hot.</p>
<p>joking.</p>
<p>yeah, MacTech92, being in a fraternity is far from “buying friends” or “laying chicks”.</p>
<p>I know. I’m a darn good lay. </p>
<p>But, LikeOmiGod, I totally have to scamper now because, like, I’m going to get soOoOoo drunk 2nitez!</p>
<p>MacTech, that’s a fairly shallow conclusion to come to. Most greek types are the popular a social ones, anyway - they’re not paying for friends.</p>
<p>Just my .02 as a non-Greek who has dated a guy in the Greek system but it really does seem as if girls join sororities when they are feeling lost on campus whereas guys initially joined for the party aspect and ended up leaving with a group of great friends for life. At Michigan, many of the girls who rush do so because they feel as it is some obligatory rite of passage that must occur at a large state school and the others rush for nice housing and to find friendships. Pan-hellenic rush has mostly girls who are rushing on their own while fraternity rushes see more groups of guy friends who are looking for a house that fits their lifestyle and habits and see a fraternity as a great way to meet more like-minded people. The implications of so many girls rushing alone is that the desire for acceptance is far, far greater so girls will put up with more crap. You’ll see more girls judging a potential pledge by their hometowns, clothes and purses than whether or not they share beliefs and attitudes. That’s probably why sororities get such a bum rap. A lot of the girls accept superficiality as just a part of the game and are sucked into similarly superficial activities that are temporarily affirming(such as making out with frat boys). Some of my female friends rushed (all either stopped rushing, don’t live at their houses or de-pledged) and they were shocked at how quickly girls stereotyped and passed judgment on the most immature and ridiculous things. There are a few houses with great girls here though and it’s wonderful to see that almost all of the guys I know, Greek or not, found them to be “girlfriend-material” whereas the prototypical sorority girls were in most cases just not even deemed good enough to be hook-up material.</p>
<p>The ONLY thing you have to know about greek life in general is that it is entirely different from campus to campus. Not one single greek system is the exactly like another. </p>
<p>The biggest thing, I think, as a graduated fraternity man, is that you can’t dismiss greeks without checking out the houses. If you rush, and decide it’s not for you, then fine, you at least have a relatively accurate idea of why it didn’t work out. If it does work out, then awesome, you made a decision that the vast majority of greeks never regret. AND you are joining for the right reasons.</p>
<p>However, if you do go greek (and I loved my time in my house) realize that it might have been different if you went to a different school. I was a ____ at Nebraska, and I know that there is no way I would have joined that chapter at Kansas. Likewise at some other school I might have never gone greek in the first place. So remember that and keep an open mind about greek life.</p>
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<p>im glad i dont kno u in real life. seems like u think your parties are the best thing in the world. id rather go to a frat party. </p>
<p>and youre right ^^^. it differs from school to school. just determine for yourself at your school. dont let findergirl come on here braggin about her parties making u think something different.</p>
<p>Yeah, I’d rather go to a frat party myself. I’d never be so tacky as to invite guests over and tell everyone to BYOB.</p>
<p>“Same deal goes for frat boys.”</p>
<p>Hey MacTech, I hate to burst your bubble, but my boyfriend is in a fraternity and is not only secure and happily nerdy, but he hardly drinks and isn’t any sort of a manwhore. He didn’t join looking for friends, he actually joined with a friend from his usual group because they simply wanted to. I’d watch your stereotypes. They just might be wrong.</p>