<p>Sports are really overvalued in college admission… Lots of people do them, plus its like no different from playing a sports video game! It doesn’t really take a lot of talent to run around and kick a ball in soccer, but it does take skill and time to master a violin/piano concerto</p>
<p>Lol, true.</p>
<p>That’s one of the stupidest comments I’ve ever heard. When do concert pianists get up at 5 am every morning all year to lift for a football team or run 10 miles a day in preparation for a track meet. And this is coming from a person who has performed solo at Carnegie Hall. Sports don’t take skill or time! You are hilarious.</p>
<p>I’m sure that all of the people in the World Cup agree that it doesn’t take much talent to kick a ball around. You’re a moron.</p>
<p>That’s one of the stupidest comments I’ve ever heard. When do concert pianists get up at 5 am every morning all year to lift for a football team or run 10 miles a day in preparation for a track meet. And this is coming from a person who has performed solo at Carnegie Hall. Sports don’t take skill or time! You are hilarious.</p>
<p>Agreed. Probably the dumbest thing i’ve ever read in my entire life. Congrats!</p>
<p>I agree, stupid OP.</p>
<p>Just to chime in to defend RSABach, that comment was in response to a comment that another person made in another thread that music was no different from playing a video game. I doubt that the OP really thinks that, but the other poster’s comment was pretty irritating for anyone who really takes music seriously. I’d be inclined to agree with the overall philosophy of this post, which I believe is more that sports and music are virtually equivalent in the dedication they require than that sports is a worthless EC.</p>
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<p>In that case, the OP really should have made the comment a reply in the original thread, but I can forgive.</p>
<p>While I hear what you are saying Rhapsody, I fail to recognize any shred of evidence showing that the OP thinks sports and music are equivalent. This person obviously felt it was necessary to completely bash something they aren’t good at. Newsflash Bach, playing an instrument such as the piano is probably the most unoriginal extracurricular out there. (I play the piano)</p>
<p>I think they are quite comparable. The OP is right, is does take time and skill to master an instrument, but it takes time and skill to master a sport as well. The tough part is figuring out who has “mastered” their sport or instrument and who has just committed to it. Deciding freshman year to do a sport and stick with it 4 years isn’t difficult; it doesn’t take much talent. Everyone, I’m sure, can find at least one sports team they can make it on. If not, there are usually teams you don’t even have to try out for and make a cut (track is sometimes like this). What they do show is a commitment, though. Even those who aren’t good a sport can be committed to it. Likewise, anyone can pick an instrument and play it for several years.</p>
<p>As long as admissions officers see someone commited to a sport equal to someone commited to an instrument, then all is well. Although one could argue the problem that the typical school will value someone who has an impressive talent a sport higher than someone with an impressive talent at an instrument. But I suppose society tends to value, whether rightfully or not, baseball players higher than celloists.</p>
<p>The difference is you can practice to be a good musician, it’s not necesarily natural talent, whereas sports are usually a natural talent; a gift.</p>
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***, you mean professional musicians don’t have talent? heifetz didn’t have talent?</p>
<p>and also, to be a good athlete, you just need to work out in the gym and do your cardio and get big muscles and you’re all set…</p>
<p>If anything, I must say sports are undervalued - especially the JV athlete. Sure, varsity and state-level athletes have a pay-off for all their work, but JV athletes work their hardest for a (basically) inconsequential goal.</p>
<p>I believe both music and athletics are two equal ways of showing both skill and dedication. Everything you would do in learning an instrument is mirrored by an aspect of playing a sport. I don’t think the OP is an athlete.</p>
<p>Btw I am both a musician and an athlete.</p>
<p>RSABach, I can’t believe you are still defending your outrageous comments. No one is bashing music, we’re responding to your apparent hate for athletics.</p>
<p>you guys are all ■■■■■■■■. Hes just trying to get you guys ****ed off.</p>
<p>Apparently, he won.</p>
<p>“to be a good athlete, you just need to work out in the gym and do your cardio and get big muscles and you’re all set…”</p>
<p>Dear Dummy,</p>
<p>The same could be said about anything. To be a good student, all you need to do is sit at a desk and read. To be a good musician, all you need to do is sit on a little bench and move your fingers all day.</p>
<p>However, not all people who work out every day become great athletes. The same is true for musicians or anything.</p>
<p>You’ve got to be kidding me. Most people who say sports are overvalued are the ones who have never played any. Do you know what it feels like to train, for your muscles and physical body to ache for nine months straight until one month of summer…and then you start training again? What it feels like for your tiny action to affect the whole team, for a dozen people on the field and three hundred in the stands depending on you? What it actually means to lose and win? This is ridiculous. Don’t put someone else’s talent and character down just because you don’t have either.</p>
<p>That’s very true – RSABach should have just left it as a reply on the other thread. It was certainly an immature action, just not quite as bad as it might seem without context.</p>
<p>jPoD, I very strongly disagree, and I wonder what qualifies you to make that judgement. To a great extent, athletic ability is certainly determined by natural ability, but musical ability cannot be forced by practice either. If technique was the only important factor, you might be somewhat correct, although certainly not entirely, but musicality is just as important. A good musician has to do more than just play the notes on a page; he or she has to know how to play the notes so that they’re more than what’s written, so that they form something grander and more cohesive. It takes a certain passion or innate talent – it’s hard to specify exactly what this factor is – to really do that with music. No amount of practicing can force out this skill from someone.</p>
<p>Bach you are the biggest idiot of all time. As a musician and an athlete, I am ashamed of you. You bash practicing for athletics. That’s like saying all you need to do is sit in front of a piano for 10 hours a day to become good. The nonsense spewing from you is downright laughable.</p>
<p>Julyinoh, you are absolutely correct about the JV athlete. It takes a hell of a person to stick with something even when they know their work is seen as inconsequential.</p>
<p>OP, sorry you weren’t blessed with an ounce of athletic ability or it seems intelligence.</p>
<p>jPoD, I very strongly disagree, and I wonder what qualifies you to make that judgement. To a great extent, athletic ability is certainly determined by natural ability, but musical ability cannot be forced by practice either. If technique was the only important factor, you might be somewhat correct, although certainly not entirely, but musicality is just as important. A good musician has to do more than just play the notes on a page; he or she has to know how to play the notes so that they’re more than what’s written, so that they form something grander and more cohesive. It takes a certain passion or innate talent – it’s hard to specify exactly what this factor is – to really do that with music. No amount of practicing can force out this skill from someone.</p>
<p>Ok…but it’s not like that cant be honed. Music talent can be attained by practicing, by having drive, etc. You dont just wake up some day and start banging on a drum and make a brilliant sound. You need to learn what to do, how to do it and want to.
Sports, you play for a few times, and can figure out if you have some natural abillity at them. You generally dont begin at point A where you have no idea how to play a sport. You learn and then you play.</p>