Sports are overvalued

<p>Coming from a national level shot putter, it seems like neither of the people claiming their passion takes more effort have any clue about the other. At least those who posted seriously, that is.</p>

<p>Shoot, I’m only trying to support music against all the people who think any idiot can play a musical instrument at a high level. If everyone could do either one (sports or music) with minimal effort neither activity would be recognized as special. Just a thought.</p>

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<p>I don’t dispute that sports can be difficult, but music is just as difficult if not more. Of course sports are more physically demanding! It’s a no-brainer! But music is by no means easy in the higher levels. If it’s so easy everyone should be able to play Rach 3 and pass the AP music theory exam with 5’s. There’s a reason why most people rank AP music theory as one of the most difficult AP tests. </p>

<p>btw, I think tennisgal is a sock puppet.</p>

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<p>Have you actually played a piano? What level have you achieved in piano? Won any competitions? Festivals? Played any difficult pieces? How about getting to know the instrument a little before coming here and belittling it?</p>

<p>^seriously…I bet you that poster can’t play more than the chords of “heart and soul”.</p>

<p>Personally, I own on Oh Susanna. </p>

<p>That’s the first song I’ve learned to play on every instrument I play/ed. Strange, but whatever.</p>

<p>no but seriously … I am in athletics and music passionately and marching band is very intense at my school… seriously it’s the most inetnse high school for marching band in the country… ever watch drumline? it pretty much owns football… sadly, I know this isn’t true for most schools but people come to the football games to watch the half time show with the marching band</p>

<p>yeah weird huh not normal… it all depends on the school though my school played at the Rose Bowl so each school carries weight on different things…</p>

<p>I play 3 sports at my school so w/e</p>

<p>BTW if I do play 3 sporsts at my school, and I play ping pong/badminton/hockey during intramurals and club sporsts so total of 6 sports , does that look good on apps?
However, I don’t like some sports like basketball,volleyball,golf so do schools put different weight on different sports?</p>

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<p>Can you make a free-throw? How bout a 3 pointer with a guy’s hand in your face? Why don’t you COME TALK TO ME after you accomplish something that doesn’t require sitting on your ass all day. It takes WAAYYY MORE time to become a Div 1 basketball player than to be an excellent piano player. My friend who is 6’6", can jump out of the gym, and strong as an ox lifts, works on his agility, basketball skills, and practices 3-4 hours per day. Do you do that for the piano? I seriously doubt it. He does all that to get looks from low level D-1 schools like U San Diego, U San Francisco, Texas Tech, etc.</p>

<p>What a stupid argument.</p>

<p>Who’s better: doctor or lawyer?</p>

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<p>Nope I don’t play basketball. But I have run cross country and track/field. I ran two hours every day, six days a week. I know what it entails. I’m not going to say that sports are not difficult, but I think you are giving musical instruments too little credit. Did I imply in any of my posts that it doesn’t take time and effort to play sports? Please find for me the post number of the post in which I said that it doesn’t take time and effort to play sports. Didn’t say that did I? Because I don’t deny that it takes a lot of time and effort to play sports. All I am asking in return is that you recognize that it also takes a lot of time and effort to play a musical instrument. I practiced at least an hour a day every single day for 8 years, not including lessons, and sometimes up to 3 or 4 hours a day. So how about trying a musical instrument out and achieving a certain level before belittling it hmm?</p>

<p>Playing an instrument = sitting on your ass all day? I could say that playing basketball is just tossing a ball around all day. But I think we both know sports and music is about more than that. I’ll point you to my post earlier in this thread (which you probably didn’t read)</p>

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<p>Hardly “sitting on your ass all day.” Look, music and sports are just different. Obviously in sports you are worked more physically, but musical instruments require virtuoso in different fields: it requires precision and technicality. Just like how you need to work out a lot in sports to get better, you need to practice your instrument a lot to get better. Both take a lot of effort and time. I’m not attacking sports so why are you attacking music?</p>

<p>and sports don’t require precision and technicality? that’s the thing… music requires some skills, but sports require those skills plus many more</p>

<p>I agree completely with vicissitudes. I’ve easily practiced 3-4 hours a day before all-state orchestra seating auditions and I’m not even a particularly extraordinary musician. </p>

<p>I used to play basketball on a team. I know what it entails. I still play violin in a number of groups. I know what it entails. Sports undeniably takes a great amount of talent and effort to do well, but music certainly does too.</p>

<p>Hrm… has this become a which is better/worse, sports or music?</p>

<p>Well, costs between owning a violin and a set of equipment is around the same, so you can’t really argue socioeconomical disadvantage; and high schools usually lend you some equipment. And both require you to maintain equipment, so that point cannot be argued.</p>

<p>But there is no genetic threshold for music. So definitely it’s an more level playing field for a musician compared to an athlete. Athletes depend on a roll of the dice (their genes). A man can pay thousands and train for the Olympics but can still be beaten out by a shrimpy Kenyan who trained in sandals due to a better set of genetics and geographics.</p>

<p>As far as overall difficulties go… a musical instrument is both harder to learn and master compared to a sport (pending on the type of instrument, I’m talking about trumpets, not triangles and cymbals). Most sports are straightforward: learn the the rules, train your body, work on your teamwork, go win championships, etc.</p>

<p>But a sport entitles more effort and has a higher impact upon your daily life. You do not have to change your diet to play the clarinet. You do not have as high a chance to be injured whilst playing a clarinet. Overall, you have alot more to lose when you play a sport.</p>

<p>So my opinion is that a sport is more challenging than an instrument. This is an umbrella statement. Obviously music has some finer points, but I’m talking about the OVERALL.</p>

<p>Marching band is an exception. It’s more like a hybrid between the two, a passive sport, a choreography, and a musical piece all rolled up into one.</p>

<p>I think that there is a bit to do with genetics in music. Don’t they pretty much determine whether you’re tone deaf or rythmically ■■■■■■■■? My mom has always told me stories of how I kicked along to the rhythms of songs before I was even born. There’s got to be more to that kind of thing than just having the music playing…I mean, it’s not like all babies do that.</p>

<p>Music’s fascinating, though. No culture on earth has ever existed without some form of music. I did my Original Oratory speech for NFL District on music…so yeah. What I lack in musical theory I make up for in completely random and useless information :)</p>

<p>Tetragrammaton asked Who’s better: doctor or lawyer?</p>

<p>This is one easy. Of course it is the lawyer. Every one of us needs at least one.</p>

<p>Heavens no. It is the doctor, because we would not be alive without them.</p>

<p>Oh, that’s conditioning. A baby is not born being able to play the violin, it’s a learned skill. Talent is a different thing. Some people (virtuosos) can just get into music more, but there is no proof this is genetic.</p>

<p>The tone deafness and rhythm, though?</p>

<p>I sort of disagree. We both know people out there that have been listening to music (and singing) since before they can remember that are completely awful…even after private lessons and the such. I really think that there is something different in the brains of kids that naturally excell in music, too.</p>

<p>I played a clarinet, and it simply didn’t compare to running track. Yes, it required skill. Yes, it required practice. Yes, it wasn’t easy. But did I become physically exhausted? No. Did I limp for two days after a difficult practice? No. Sports involve talent AND physical sacrifices, ones musicians can’t even imagine.</p>

<p>All those who say that music doesn’t require as much effort as sports is probably right. Designing the atomic bomb doesn’t require you to run around in the sun either. Neither does coming up with the theory of genetics. Simply put, music is more difficult intellectually, and sports physically.</p>