Stanford Rejection: Chance me for Harvard?

<p>Stats:[ul]
[<em>] SAT: 2300
[</em>] SAT IIs: 800, Math II, 800 US History, 780 Chemistry
[<em>] GPA: 4.3ish W, 3.96 UW
[</em>] Rank: N/A
[li] Other stats:[/li]APs:
5 Chemistry
5 US History
4 Art Studio</p>

<p>[/ul]Location/Person:[ul]
[<em>] State or Country: USA
[</em>] School Type: Public
[<em>] Ethnicity: Chinese
[</em>] Gender: Male
[/ul][ b]Other Factors:**
-Love art, have been drawing/painting since I was 5-6 (many awards)
-Design Editor for school publication
-Internship at a company. I do Web Design

  • Internship with an Architect
    -President of Red Cross Club</p>

<p>General Comments:</p>

<p>I got rejected too. :frowning: I am very depressed.
I have similar stats, but I’m not hopeful.</p>

<p>oh damn. meh…</p>

<p>Likely rejection.</p>

<p>really? harvard too?</p>

<p>Well, your stats are really good, though a lot of Harvard-applicants look like this (as you probably know)… Just try it! Write stellar essays! Your interest in art makes you look different than the average science-genius asian applicant… Try to emphasize that.</p>

<p>good luck!</p>

<p>I do have question though: Are you really interested in Harvard? Or just in the prestige? Because Stanford and Harvard isn’t the most likely combination (besides they’re both one the best schools in the world…)
Adcoms can tell if you don’t want to attend, for the school itself, but just for the name… </p>

<p>Sorry for my horrible grammar, its still reallyyy early in the morning here.</p>

<p>you have potential but the way you write this thread, for example, doesn’t convey enough distinguishing personality to make a compelling case or for us to make a judgment. did you submit an art supplement? how dedicated are you to your chief ecs? it’s what you can elaborate on those bullets that would make the difference and how you come across as a whole. i have to disagree w/ guiltybystander because art does tend to be an asian thing… >_> but if you’re sufficiently good that shouldn’t make too big of a difference. </p>

<p>idk if you’ve submitted your harvard app yet, but if you haven’t i think the best thing to do is try to present the art, the design, and the architecture internship so that there’s some synergy and they can think of you as “the very artistic kid who’s great at design and wants to be an architect”, for example, rather than “the art kid who did some internship, is in charge of some random club, and does red cross.” i mean your stats are great, i think at this point it’s just a lot of luck and if you have that x factor or not. ?_?</p>

<p>I see. I already submitted everythign including art supplement. But I still have my common app. I guess I could change that. XD</p>

<p>actually… most asians are good at art to… as u can tell by pokemon, etc LOL</p>

<p>JUST KIDDIN</p>

<p>eh… no hook applicant=low probability… thats just me…</p>

<p>Ooh, well learned something new today! Im sorry! (About the art thing!)
So, I should extend my list to: tennis, piano,art, perfect SATs and science? Lol, sorry for the generalisation!</p>

<p>I’m going to have to agree with Ambitiousteen. No hook is almost certain rejection.</p>

<p>like personally… i’ve done an internship overseas for pre-med… if u got whats called a Non-teenage activity (i.e. not ur typical volunteering, piano playing, teen clubs, etc) then u might have a chance… but right now ur on the right track about being rejected</p>

<p>err okay. Could you give some examples of hooks?</p>

<p>Hook: internship with the top aerospace company in the nation?</p>

<p>Ambitiousteen, doing an internship overseas for pre-med isn’t a hook at all, and it certainly won’t do very much for a Harvard app. And there’s really no such thing as a “Non-Teenage Activity,” and it’s not something schools look for–they like to see you being a teenager, just an exceptional teenager. They don’t expect you to be the CEO of a Fortune 500 Company or something. Stop trying to sound like you know something about the admissions process when you clearly don’t.</p>

<p>As for the “no hook, no acceptance:” people get in without hooks all the time (real hooks, as in URM, legacy, recruited athlete, ISF winner, etc, not “Look! I can pay $1000 bucks to fly to Africa!”). Only a small portion of admitted students are really hooked. The rest are just a nice combo of smart and lucky.</p>

<p>that makes me feel better</p>

<p>Is the Harvard thread less populated?</p>

<p>^^No, but with no EA going on things are relatively quiet here.</p>

<p>As for assessing your chances, what is the point? Why should random, anonymous people on the internet be any good at accurately assess your chances of getting into Harvard? People who said you had good chances for Stanford clearly missed the mark.</p>

<p>Look, RD is a different world from SCEA. Instead of trying to cherry pick their athletes and URMs from among their captive SCEA pools, HYPSM will all be competing with each other to put together the best class possible. That opens things up quite a bit.</p>

<p>Your stats are in the ballpark, so if Harvard is a good fit for you, go ahead and apply. Just be aware that the overall chances are pretty low. But the worst that can happen is they say no, in which case you’ll be in exactly the same spot as if you never applied. Good luck.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>there are kids who get rejected by stanford that get into harvard. I might even say a waitlist from Stanford has lower chances of getting into Harvard than a Stanford reject.</p></li>
<li><p>You really didn’t post much info if you’re asking for chances…so I don’t think anyone here can really give you a good prediction.</p></li>
</ol>

<p>“I might even say a waitlist from Stanford has lower chances of getting into Harvard than a Stanford reject.”</p>

<p>Could you provide a rationale for this claim?</p>