Stanford results usually consistent with HYP?

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<p>rejected from Stanford & MIT, accepted by Caltech
A little of my background, I have a 4.5(weighted)/3.92(unweighted) GPA, 2380 SAT, and demonstrated my interest in science, law, and the environment through internships, mock trial competitions, debate(varsity), teen court(attorney), zoo corps and volunteering at an animal shelter. I also founded a club, which has expanded to 10 schools in my county, raised over $7,500 to support our cause, and have made real differences(19 of the kids we sponsor from rural China have gone on to college). </p>

<p>I’m wondering–how come I was accepted by Caltech but straight up rejected by Stanford/MIT? Should I expect rejections from HYP, etc. too? </p>

<p>In general, do these top tier schools usually cross admit the same group of students?</p>

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<p>Similar situation for me. Rejected by Stanford and MIT, accepted at Oxford. But that’s a little less unusual as all three universities are looking for very different things. Plus Oxford is in the UK… xD</p>

<p>I’d like to think that this means we shouldn’t lose all hope for HYP…</p>

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<p>@wheeeeeeeeitsme: Are you an interantional? </p>

<p>I’m actually surprised you didn’t even get at least wait listed at MIT and Stanford. If you’re an international then I can understand why you got rejected since it’s about 3-5 times harder for international students to get in.</p>

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<p>Stanford decisions do not reflect HYP decisions.</p>

<p>The fact that Stanford is 40% Californian is a testament to this.</p>

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<p>Are you Asian or white?</p>

<p>The only thing I can think of is the fact that Caltech does not practice affirmative action. Or at least that’s the impression I have.</p>

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<p>Caltech does practice affirmative action. It’s usually state schools that don’t practice affirmative action.</p>

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<p>Caltech does not practice AA. I think its the only elite school that doesnt.</p>

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<p>^Really? I always thought all elite schools practiced affirmative action.</p>

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<p>What is your source? Dozens of posters on CC over the years have claimed that they do not, including this one from a Caltech senior:</p>

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<p>The student body make-up statistics do not seem to suggest that Caltech employs much affirmative action, if any: less than one percent of the student body is African American.</p>

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<p>thanks for the replies</p>

<p>I forgot to say earlier that I am Asian, female and from the US (Cali), which I guess might’ve influenced decisions.</p>

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<p>At this point, admissions have become a virtual lottery. I got into MIT, rejected from Stanford. Why? I don’t really know. My apps were comparable, and I can’t see any big difference in what the schools look for. All I can guess is that I was lucky with MIT. Sure, I was qualified, but there were thousands of other qualified applicants who didn’t get a spot. The same goes for Stanford.</p>

<p>It’s become close to random. You can increase your odds with better test scores, essays, recommendations, extracurriculars, etc., but you can’t guarantee your admission, and you may find people less qualified than you getting in. It simply can’t be determined absolutely. All you can do is apply to a lot of great and competitive schools and hope that one takes you. Don’t look at rejection as a failure on your part. It’s likely that you were great, but the odds just weren’t in your favor this time around.</p>

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<p>Well put, joedirt. I hope you will love MIT if you decide to attend there!</p>

<p>Also, in response to the OP, I wanted to mention that I know lots and lots of people who were cross-admits at Stanford and HYP. They are an especially well-credentialed group, unsurprisingly.</p>

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<p>I was rejected from Stanford SCEA but accepted to MIT. Like joedirt131 said, it’s all luck. Sure, I am well above their “average” acceptance stats, but it’s still all a toss up. Just hope for the best, and don’t feel bad if you weren’t accepted!</p>

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<p>Caltech is weird. Not only are they looking for different things, but they are looking for VERY different things. Even than MIT. MIT cares about grades and activities that aren’t math/science/engineering related. MIT’s male/female ratio is equal (aka females have it easier than male’s getting in). MIT is not looking for quirky people. MIT practices AA. On this point, I knew of a guy a few years ago with very low qualifications for Caltech who got accepted. He wasn’t white/asian. His next best school he got into was UofI. </p>

<p>OP I’d say Stanford’s and MIT’s decision is a better indicator for HYP than Caltech’s. It doesn’t really matter, your decision at HYP was decided long ago. You know?</p>

<p>Anyways at least you got Caltech. It’s a fine school.</p>

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<p>I don’t think there’s a lot of correlation between HYPS. The very fact that they’re so prestigious makes their admissions a CRAPSHOOT, as everyone who’s ever been through the process knows. It’s very, very rare that a student gets admitted to all of them. If you got into one, count your lucky stars :)</p>

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<p>Nobody knows how many HYPSM cross-admits are there. My guess is about 1500 -2000. For Class 2012, there were 160 cross-admitted by Stanford and Yale.</p>

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<p>^^ That seems like too few - where’s that number from?</p>

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<p>Sometimes hard to figure out. Know 5 kids in NorCal that got into Stanford with SAT’s in 1700’s-1800’s, gpa’s around 3.1, no EC’s, no sports, no legacy…</p>

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<p>This claim has been made over and over, and it’s simply not true.</p>

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<p>Um, yes it is. That’s what makes MIT so unique.</p>