Stanford University Vs University of Toronto?

<p>Which of this schools would be better for a foreigner looking to get a masters degree computer science (with specialization in software Eng or Database and Information systems) ?</p>

<p>Not considering cost.
Im more concerned about the life as a student, job opportunities while studying and after studying. </p>

<p>In general, what do you think about the study environment in USA vs Canada?</p>

<p>Brief background.
Got a bachelors degree in telecommunications from Ukraine.
22 years old.
2 years field experience.</p>

<p>^^to be honest…if you have to ask this question…even if you are from Ukraine…with the internet/information/statistics available all over the world…I don’t believe you are a candidate for Stanford (even for a masters program)…</p>

<p>@Megziflips:
You are kidding, right?
I am an international as well, and as far as I know, my friends who are attending U of Toronto do not even stand a chance at Stanford.</p>

<p>“Better” is a very subjective question. It depends on what you’re talking about specifically.</p>

<p>Stanford’s computer science is better than University of Toronto’s, academically speaking. Its computer science department is ranked #1 by the National Research Council, and probably U.S. News too (didn’t check). Reputationally, if you wanted to work in the U.S. or abroad, the Stanford name will reach far and wide in helping you get a first job. Stanford’s location and name also makes it ideal for part-time jobs and internships in the field while you are getting the MS, which is really important for landing a full-time job.</p>

<p>However, Stanford may not be better for YOU. First of all, there’s the question of whether you are competitive for Stanford at all. Second of all, UToronto could possibly be a better choice for you if you are offered funding there or if it’s significantly cheaper than Stanford (which will probably cost you around $120,000 over the 2 years, including cost of living).</p>

<p>The difference in study environment between the U.S. and Canada in grad school is likely to be negligible. Generally, graduate students keep their heads down, do their work, go to class and try to get jobs and internships. It’s not at all like undergrad. Both Palo Alto and Toronto are nice cities where you can meet people and hang out every so often, but think of this more like looking for a job (a really intense and time-consuming job) in terms of social life.</p>

<p>juillet, what is the main difference between the NRC and US. News’ ranking system?
There seems to be a large discrepancy between the rankings found on both sites.
d will be</p>

<p>And my major is management information system under the faculty of computer science . I reckon that Canada would be better environment and academic and I would that it is suit for you.Plus I am in China.</p>

<p>@seta
If you did not attend U of T yourself, then you should not be making these statements purely based on very limited observations. Many of my friends graduated top of the class from UT engineering and they are currently still top student/researcher @MIT, Stanford, Berkeley engineering PhD programs, I consider some to be the smartest people I know, even at Stanford. While it is true that on average UT is not as good as Stanford, but average and ranking never matters, the success comes from the ability of each individual</p>

<p>@Megziflips
You should really really re-read what juillet wrote, all of those are very good points.
I did my undergraduate in EE@UT and I am currently working full time engineering job in the valley while studying part time <a href=“mailto:MSEE@Stanford”>MSEE@Stanford</a>. If you only care about the best reputation due to the professors/school name, then you should not be asking, it’s obvious which one to choose. </p>

<p>Job opportunities in the valley for CS graduates from Stanford is very good, provided you are good at what you do, remember the name will only get you interviews, it is your own knowledge and passion about the field that will land the dream job you ultimately want. I have many friends in the UT computer engineering and CS deparment finding good internship/jobs at Amazon/Google/MS, but than again, they are good at what they do. Toronto also offer relatively good career opportunity in software consulting if you are interested.</p>

<p>Now for a quick comparison on study life.(between Stanford EE vs U of T EE, not a too far off comparison). The material difficulty at UT is slightly easier than Stanford, in the sense that I feel I needed to spend maybe extra ~20% of time on each class to do just as well at Stanford, my GPA is 3.92 so far after 4 classes. But this could be due to the fact that I constantly need to juggle back and forth between my day job and I am losing focus during my studies. The study environment itself is nearly identical so nothing to say here.</p>

<p>Another major thing to consider is of course student life, and I would take UT any day. From the UT main campus is a very short walk/subway ride to one of the biggest city in Canada, anything you want you can find it, comparable to San Francisco, while Palo Alto on the other hand…very small but still ok to get by, and unless you have a car, commuting to different parts of the valley is a long and painful experience. ( Toronto’s winter is long, snow is pretty much around staring from mid-Nov all the way to early-April on average, if you don’t like it, go to Stanford, no snow in winter)</p>

<p>I am Toronto local for 10 years, a lot of my friends are international, just like any other top engineering/CS school in Canada. Both school/area are pretty multi-cultural so you should fit right in. (Note: UT may have more Asians vs Stanford, my EE class is like 60% Chinese/Korean, 20% Indian, 10% white, and 10% others…maybe you don’t want to see the whole class filled with Asians, who knows. When you walk on the main campus street during regular day time, you sometimes will have this illusion that you are actually studying at Hong Kong university and the white people are actually the foreigners…)</p>

<p>PS: one my best friend is from Ukraine and I call him programming god. Even though I am a circuit design guy, he still criticized my programming style and professionalism for the longest time :stuck_out_tongue: </p>

<p>good luck on your application, I hope you asked the question just to get more info and not because you didn’t do any homework…you should always do your homework.</p>