<p>I am pretty annoyed. D2 was with her dad last week, and he took her in to take her written driver’s permit test. She passed. She needed to provide ID, so she took her state id card in. We got it for her several years ago, and it has been very valuable when she needs picture ID for stuff like test taking, flying, etc. She is 17, but no driver’s license yet (obviously since she just took her written test, and it is likely to be six months or so before she gets the picture license).</p>
<p>So they clipped the corner off her state id when they gave her the paper permit. I assume this is what they do with old driver’s licenses or driver’s licenses from another state. But now I think it is invalid. I am going to go into the nearby office with her in a few days and see if they will issue her a new one without charge, as I think this was a mistake. But it burns me up to have to spend the time on this. She does have a passport, but I hate to send it places with her because she loses stuff pretty easily. Grrr…</p>
<p>Too bad she didn’t take her passport in as ID when she took her permit test. That’s what my D did…</p>
<p>My recollection is that you don’t need to show picture ID if you are flying and under the age of 18. The SAT (for example) requires the picture ID to be “current.” The clipped state ID together with the permit seems to be “current” to me and should work for testing purposes.</p>
<p>Let’s hope it doesn’t take 6 months for the license to come!</p>
<p>Our state does this and it doesn’t invalidate the ID/license as long as you have the paper permit/license for which you just applied. I would call before driving down there but I don’t think it is an issue. When she gets her permit in the mail, that will be her new ID (assuming they send out a license like permit which is what they do here).</p>
<p>Intparent, I don’t know what state you’re in, but in NY the kids get a photo ID permit within a couple of weeks of the permit application. Did they take a photo at the DMV?</p>
<p>In our state the kids carry the paper permit form around until they take the actual driving test. My kid has a learning disability that is going to make learning to drive a challenge. It could be over a year of practice driving on this paper permit before she actually takes the driving test and passes it (I predict multiple tries at the driving test). The state doesn’t issue the picture license until after they pass the in-the-car test. She could, in fact, be over 18 before she gets a picture license.</p>
<p>Sigh. I will go down to the state office near our house with her the next weekend she is with me and we will see if they can re-issue one at state expense, given that it was their mistake.</p>
<p>I would still call before you go down as it may not have been a mistake and just standard procedure for the ID if they are getting a license. Again, I don’t think it is an issue at all though.</p>
<p>I can see why clipping a license would invalidate it, but I don’t know why it would invalidate an ID since they don’t expire, do they? I think it’s more of a short cut to show that she was issued another form of ID. She would always have both her permit and the ID on her person anyway, wouldn’t she?</p>
<p>In my state, it is also true that the IDs are not invalid as long as they are with the paper permit-- at my sec of state office they staple them together for you when they clip it. Same thing happened when I renewed my drivers license, they clip the old one and staple a paper temp to it to use until my new one comes in the mail.</p>
<p>Seem to remember having my state ID clipped, too. It was 5 years ago that I had one, but I thought they did expire. It would make sense-- they want you in for an updated picture eventually.</p>
<p>I think they may also clip so that it can’t be used to get a license in another state (say where the kiddo may go to school out-of-state). My S had to surrender his license from HI to get one in CA. They don’t want folks to be able to have a license in multiple states & enjoy the perks of being a resident of more than one state (discounts, etc.)</p>
<p>Agree with Stevenma, As long as you carry the paper registration, the photo id can be used. Don’t ask me to explain the drivers license office. They wouldn’t issue my D a state enhanced id with her passport.</p>
<p>Be sure to check to keep an eye on the expiration date on the permit. My D got her permit at age 16 and had to get her permit renewed THREE times (didn’t take the drivers test until the end of her freshman year of college!). </p>
<p>I wouldn’t get a new state issued ID unless and until she decided that she wasn’t going to get a drivers license at all.</p>
<p>^^^ Do pay attention to the expiration dates and policies for learners’ permits in your state. Happykid had to retake the written state exam in order to renew her permit because she didn’t get her license within two years.</p>
<p>The permit is good for two years, so we are (I hope!) safe there. Regarding the state ID card, it does have an expiration, and that is 4 years away still. </p>
<p>I don’t think the logic of clipping the state id card keeps them from getting a driver’s license in another state. She could show up with a birth certificate or passport, and get one in many other states. The thing about clipping a driver’s license makes sense (if you show up with a driver’s license, they generally give you a new one without having to do anything but take a vision test and pay a fee). But clipping the id card seems completely illogical to me.</p>
<p>I suppose I could try to phone the department of motor vehicles, but I envision several transfers and time on hold while they mull this over.</p>
<p>Kathiep, “she would always have both her permit and her id on her person”… ha! The same learning disability that makes it challenging for her to drive also makes her “the pigpen of paper”. She NEVER has what she needs when she needs it. The odds of her having either of those items (let alone both of them) unless I explicitly place them in her purse and hand it to her on the way out the door are… zero.</p>
<p>Don’t know about others, but generally, most of the judges would dismisses cases of driving w/o a driver’s license (or learner’s permit) on your person, so long as you showed proof that you HAD such a document issued to you if you got a ticket. The citation would be dismissed upon mailing a copy of such proof.</p>
<p>I had a D that was constantly misplacing things–she’s slowly getting a bit better now, at age 22!</p>
<p>Does she only drive one car? Could she keep the permit in the glove box? My sister never kept track of her permit so that was what we did, my mom laminated it and kept it in the glove box of the car my sister was learning in.</p>
<p>The point is if she keeps the paper permit and the ID in the same place at the same time (in a wallet), even if she doesn’t have it on her 100% of the time, when she needs to show someone the ID, the paper permit will be the back up for the clipped corner. Say she is going to take the ACT and needs to show a photo ID, you hand her her wallet that has the state ID and the paper permit in there and she will be just fine. If she is driving, you have brought along the wallet with the permit and she also has her ID.</p>
Regarding the state ID card, it does have an expiration, and that is 4 years away still. </p>