I’m a rising senior in high school in the recruiting process for cross-country and track. 9:55 3k, 5:00 mile (girl). 1500+ SAT, 95+ weighted GPA.
I’ve narrowed it down to three Ivies and one D3. The three Ivies have 2-3 commits already, and only 5-6 spots. These Ivy coaches tell me that they are interested and definitely want to stay in touch.
But then, they also all have made it clear that there is a tier ahead of me of 2-6 girls that are going on an official visit soon, that they will likely offer to, and let me know what my situation is based on the outcome of that. I am part of the next group down, who they will POSSIBLY invite/offer to, but absolutely nothing is sure (and I have no idea how small/large the chances are of these girls ahead of me accepting is).
So I’m playing the waiting game with three separate Ivies right now. In this situation, what percent of the time do they ACTUALLY dip into the next set of girls that I am part of? Basically, should I expect to not get an offer anywhere because these girls ahead of me will likely fill the remaining spots, or should I be more optimistic about this? No idea what usually happens.
I think the D3 will give me an offer, but I have a definite favorite school and it’s not the D3.
If you haven’t been asked to go on an official visit to the Ivys, it likely will not happen. Visits are happening now. Keep the lines of communication open, but it sounds like the D3 is your best option. Have you been asked for academic pre reads from the Ivy schools?
Actually- I am going on an official at one of the Ivies (and obviously the D3). The other two, my official visit depends on how their first one with the better girls goes. So I might be invited on one; I just have to wait and see what happens with them first.
I have been asked by 1/3 of the Ivies. The other two say they’re absolutely confident that I’d pass so no need?
Unless there is some concern with your rigor, I don’t see the pre-read being an issue. I think you just have to go with the flow until you have an offer on hand. Its hard to say what will happen with those other offers. There is probably some overlap between the recruits so its not unfeasible that it would happen, but I wouldn’t count on it.
I’d say the chance that the remaining Ivies turn into something is pretty small. Not zero, but small. If the coaches thought it was likely I think they’d have done the pre-read; it’s part of what they’d do to be ready for next steps.
I’d typically suggest expanding the pool but it seems you have a preferred non-recruiting school in mind, and you’ve narrowed the recruiting focus to schools that, if offered, you’d consider instead?
If so, I think you just need to see how the visits pan out. Who knows, maybe you love the schools you visit, one of the other Ivies does need to fill out the recruiting class, or you go the non-recruiting route and it works out. So, don’t worry. Just be realistic.
The Ivy that I’m going on an official visit for didn’t ask for the pre-read. Of the other two, one did, one didn’t (said they knew I’d pass).
Hopefully it works out. One of them I really want to work out.
I also badly need to get going on supplements, and of course I have no idea which to work on (which Ivy/D3, or one of the other schools on my list for applying on my own???)
If the Ivy you are visiting offers you a spot, would you take it? I’d prioritize that and the D3 first as you would most likely be applying ED to those if offered.
The other Ivys may be a “if you get in on your own, we’d have a spot for you” so those might be RD applications which is later.
It’s a stressful and rough process. Different sport, but we’ve seen it with a lot of kids. If you’re in the second tranche you just have to wait it out. There is A LOT of movement - at least in swimming. Once one commitment is made there is the domino effect of other schools hoping for that commit. Hang in there!
It depends. The official visit for that Ivy is late September. By then, I will know what my chances look like at my first choice Ivy. If I’m still moving through the process at my first choice as a recruit, I would have to wait on the official visit Ivy offer and get back to the first choice Ivy with the fact that I have an offer and want to know more, and that I’m fully committed there if they do offer me (first choice).
Thank you- hopefully it’s the same lots of movement in running!! I wish I knew how many other official visits/schools these girls ahead of me are still engaged with
Ok. But just realize that an offer from your first choice without an invited campus visit is probably a long shot. It sounds like they’d have to lose out on all of the recruits that they did give visits to. Not impossible, but also not probable.
They have one official visit happening soon. They told me that depending on what their first group of official visitors does, they may/may not invite a second OV group. They said they would invite me to the second OV, if there is one. Hope so
Ah, got it. That’s a little unusual in my experience but they likely have their reasons. It’s also possible they’ll get the pre-read done prior to the OV. It is more of a checking off the boxes issue but usually the boxes get checked before an offer of support is made.
it’s a difficult year with track, and as I said on another thread the timing is getting pushed out all around. I actually think you are in a good spot, just need to be patient. There is a cascading effect in play here - the top ivy recruits could be waiting on guidance from top academic Power 4 schools (with scholarships) who are still trying to navigate the landscape for recruiting. There was a general move to be compassionate from these schools (not all) to try to slowly whittle the roster size down, which would somewhat mute ongoing recruiting efforts. My take is things open up significantly over the next month - and as someone said one move leads to the chess board going into motion. Good luck!
Sounds like you’re in a solid spot since you already have one Ivy official lined up and strong academics. Coaches often wait to see how top recruits respond, but spots do open up. Keep communication steady, show your interest, and let things play out you’ve got good chances.
The plan is Princeton if no offers. I’m already starting their application and going through all I need to do, and that’s when I stumbled across the graded paper.
Honestly Princeton is my top choice. If I had to pick a school to go to, it would be there, 100%. But I’m not fast enough to just sail right in. I have to GET IN on my own which is so so so uncertain.
I have a great coach and school counselor to support me, but it’s still a really hard decision everywhere
So if Princeton with no running is better than your other options- isn’t the logical next step to find a group of target/safeties (whether with running or not) that are similar to Princeton?
Do your best- of course. But maybe spend a bit of time on the list of backups in case Princeton doesn’t come through and you decide you want a “Princeton-like” experience?