Student Expectations Seen as Causing Grade Disputes

<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/18/education/18college.html?_r=1&em[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/18/education/18college.html?_r=1&em&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>^^^As an educator I found this quite amusing. Don’t students read the class syllabus/scoring guides/rubrics? Profmom, can you relate?</p>

<p>Extremely interesting…</p>

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really hits home in Georgia. Hope Scholarship pays full tuition for College in GA if you graduate from HS with a B average and maintain the B in college. Our young people, but probably more so their parents, view this as an entitlement and that the high school and higher ed system must maintain B as the new minimum grade. Parents don’t care whether their kids have learned how to write, how to study, or have a passion to study a particular subject/topic. If the final grade in the course is not a B the instructor has failed, and the parent pays the price: tuition.</p>

<p>Where did the educational system make the turn that our students now believe that their grades are about effort, not mastering the material? </p>

<p>We see it in the Library all the time, no initiative to research a topic. A treasure trove of primary source material at their finger tips - too much effort is involved easier to just pull from the internet. They believe that they have worked hard but there is no quality in their effort.</p>

<p>It would be interesting to know if Prof. Grossman’s English course is a required or elective course. My guess is that it’s a required course. Otherwise most students would have learned of his grading system and found alternative teachers.</p>

<p>My opinion is that the absolute fairness of Prof. Grossman’s grading approach depends on his definition of ‘standard requirements’ and the university’s definitions for the various grade levels. Then there’s the relative fairness that depends on how Grossman’s approach compares to the grading approach used by peer professors.</p>

<p>From a pragmatic point of view, unless the Prof. Grossman offers a superior classroom experience when compared to other english teachers, a student needing or desiring higher grades would be better served by avoiding Grossman’s class. </p>

<p>Unfortunately, colleges and grad. schools don’t ask “What do you know?”, they ask “What was your GPA?”</p>

<p>Care to guess why the SAT/ACT scores are given so much weight?</p>

<p>The issue of ‘effort versus results’ is a whole other discussion.</p>

<p>If you know and can communicate/evaluate 100% of the material, you have earned a 100% as a grade. If you know and communicate/evaluate 70%, that is the grade you should recieve.</p>

<p>Amount of effort and entitlement should not be a significant aspect of a grade. Mastery of the material and communication of such is the goal in most places.</p>

<p>I disagree with anyone setting a “default grade.” You should be graded on your performance, and classes should be taught at a suitable level for how well the average student can perform (i.e. don’t teach Calc II to 3rd graders).</p>