<p>ABC should have fact-checked a bit more. Huguely was 20 years (and two months), not 19 in November 2007 (according to UVA, his birthdate is 9-1-87 (unless that is incorrect?). Yes, they are both underage, but it still is an example of a fact reported incorrectly. How many other facts have been or will be reported incorrectly in this story? Oh, I know, I know – that is the nature of the media. </p>
<p>And here’s the usual quote from family from the same article, stating that the suspect is a good person:</p>
<p>“Huguely’s grandfather George Huguely III said publicly that Huguely is ‘a good kid’ and that ‘hopefully he will be graduating.’” </p>
<p>Yes, Grandpa, let’s keep your eyes on the prize – George must graduate! I wonder if he will – does he probable conviction (for something) preclude his eventually receiving a diploma from UVA? </p>
<p>Surely granddaddy doesn’t think he will be graduating in a few weeks…?</p>
<p>I thought Granddaddy’s wording was a little odd – “Hopefully he will be graduating.” </p>
<p>Of course what he actually said might not be what was printed. </p>
<p>Even if the Huguely family donates money for a Huguely Hall, he won’t be allowed to get that diploma, ever? </p>
<p>Also strange that he didn’t mention (or at least ABC didn’t print) that he is sorry about the young woman’s tragic death. The boy already admitted it was an accident, but it’s no secret that he did it. And, regardless, her death is a tragedy. From the quote, though, it appears that Granddaddy is only concerned about the boy’s UVA diploma.
Maybe ABC wanted it to appear that way with selective quoting?</p>
<p>MDMom, Your suggestion about talking to our young daughters happened last night at our house. It needs to be done. I had talked to her about all kinds of safety, but as she hasn’t yet gotten into a relationship, we have never broached this subject. Hopefully, she listened and will remember. </p>
<p>Allen Groves, Dean of Students at UVA, brought up some really good points in yesterday’s press conference. It is his hope that with this tragic situation occurring, more women will take measures to avoid abuse and more students at UVA (and elsewhere) will “raise their hands” and acknowledge the potential for an awful situation to actually happen in the case of an abusive individual they have witnessed. In the aftermath of the massacre at VT, he said he felt more professors are in tune with their students and their emotions, reporting behavioral concerns with more frequency. </p>
<p>With every one of these tragedies, we owe it to the victims to learn and try to do more to help others they have left behind.</p>
<p>Amen, KMom! And not just the girls - it sounds like there were others in their immediate circle who were aware of the volatility in this relationship. If anything good comes out of this tragedy, it would be increased awareness that people (male & female) shouldn’t just stand on the sidelines and keep quiet about an abusive relationship. Friends and family need to speak up.</p>
<p>@CTTC - yes, I found it odd that no one from the Huguely family has publicly expressed any sympathy about the tragic death. Perhaps legal counsel has told them not to say anything?</p>
<p>Weeks after OJ murdered Nicole Simpson, the NFL sent out counselors to all its teams to discuss domestic violence. Let us hope UVA does the same thing with all its DIV 1 teams.
The burden should not just be on the girls to speak up; the boys and coaches should be educated on how to create a gender-friendly environment where women are not demeaned and objectified, where the kids are trained in techniques in leaving the aggression on the field and, as always, kids are trained to moderate alcohol consumption.</p>
This education and training should have happened a long time ago. Before college, even. I wonder if this tragedy will effect any sort of change. I wish it would, but the pragmatic part of me says that it probably won’t.</p>
Can’t agree more. And get out at the first hint
This is much easier said than done, for a variety of reasons.</p>
<p>Not only tell your daughter’s to get out at the first ‘hint’ you must convey that you will support her unequivocally. There can be no ‘don’t be a drama queen’, here.</p>
<p>along with getting out at the first hint of abuse, it’s also important that they tell someone about it, parents, school counselor, school security, close friend. the actual ending of the relationship represents a high risk time in an abusive relationship, so letting others know of the behaviors and threats is key. This way if behavior begins to escalate, ie. stalking, harassing, death threats, action can quickly be taken against the abuser. this also insures that the young woman has the support and advice from those she trusts about how to protect herself accordingly.</p>
<p>did others notice how the stepfather has a weird smile on his face when seen walking to their car? </p>
<p>Well, at least the thread has moved towards domestic violence and away from the stunning revelation that the country’s murder problem arises out of economic success.</p>
<p>Jonri’s point about the 911 call report is one that is provoking. i agree with it, but there could be other explanations for that apparent dissembling than simply protecting Huguely.</p>
<p>Its possible that he asked someone about where she was and they told him. Other possibilities exist also. The investigation will have to unfold.</p>
<p>What the heck kind of a lame, “get-me-out-of-this-line-of-questioning” comment is that? The accused and his attorney have already said that he meant to smash Ms. Love’s head repeatedly against the wall; he just didn’t intend for her to die from it. So fine Governor, don’t comment about the status of legal guilt - comment about abhorring any violence against women regardless of how catastrophic the outcomes may be!</p>
<p>In one of the articles, an official from UVA mentioned that there have been six student deaths this year. How many of them were related to alcohol? Does anyone think that the UVA drinking culture reputation (which has been around for many years) will ever be looked at in a new light? Dean J?</p>
<p>There IS another arrest in Palm Beach County when he was 17 for underage drinking. He was a juvenile and the records are sealed. I will look for official confirmation but this appears to be IN ADDITION the two incidents in post 236. He was definitely 17 when it occurred.</p>
<p>baystateresident, I’m not Dean J but I’ll note the following: </p>
<p>One young man, a medical student, died in a caving accident.<br>
One young woman died in the Haiti earthquake.<br>
One young man was struck and killed while bicycling.<br>
Two students suffered from chronic illness and died as a result, if memory serves me correctly.<br>
One young man died unexpectedly. There has been no determination as to his cause of death.</p>
<p>the neighbor stated, “Some other spirit must have taken over him.” </p>
<p>alcohol</p>
<p>this neighbor’s singing this young man’s praises is rather sickening to me. terrifically polite?? </p>
<p>sunnyflorida—based on these additional reports of arrests, seems there was a known history of Huguely having a problem with alcohol and becoming angry and out of control when under the influence. wonder if the family knew about the arrest a month earlier in Lexington. since the arrest in '08 happened outside a frat house at W & L one would like to believe the arresting officer would want to inform UVA of this arrest, especially in light of the threats he made.</p>
<p>I have a feeling that some of us are acquainted with people who have extreme anger issues and we don’t even know it, because we are never around when it is triggered. There have been a couple of divorces that surprised me because the husband is “the nicest guy in the world”…then the wife reveals that he wasn’t like that at home.</p>
<p>The only “rage” issue we’ve personally encountered was a dad who drove a car pool in which my D was a member. She rode with him twice before telling us about his road rage (getting into swearing fits in front of 11 year old girls while driving on normal suburban streets.) We pulled D out of the car pool and did talk to the guys’ ex-wife about it; she totally understood (she was the ex) and soon he wasn’t driving car pool. But just to meet the guy he seemed perfectly great.</p>