<p>jonri, Please stop calling /referring to Yeardley by her last name. It seems very cold/clinical. Let the CSI types do that if they must.</p>
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<p>Seems like if they were going to “manufacture evidence” it would take more than a few hours to do so, and even more to decide that “he’s the only person” they could pin it on.</p>
<p>^^^</p>
<p>Very true…</p>
<p>He likely confessed or was found disposing of something (like maybe bloody clothing) or something.</p>
<p>Again, in these kinds of cases, cops wait, wait, wait to arrest…unless they’ve got the goods.</p>
<p>I was under the impression that any time the police bring someone in for questioning, they are required to read them their Miranda rights. Not so?</p>
<p>No. Cops are allowed to talk to whomever they want without Mirandizing them as long as the person hasn’t been arrested or named as a suspect (which cops avoid doing until an arrest or warrant has been issued). however, if the person asks for a lawyer at some point during questioning, that has to be respected.</p>
<p>Cops bring in people all the time for questioning - witnesses, co-workers, employers, neighbors, family members, etc. They don’t Mirandize all those people.</p>
<p>For now, I’m going to say a UVa student (probably of upper middle class background) was found dead, and they need someone to pay and he was the one that called the ambulance so the cops arrested this poor kid. With no autopsy, they have no cause of death, and therefore they don’t even know how she died. </p>
<p>I suspect that short of a sworn confession, they’ll have to let him go because they won’t be able to arraign him in time.</p>
<p>Who says he was the one who called the ambulance?</p>
<p>Clearly, you have zero familiarity with how these things happen.</p>
<p>I don’t know if this was posted already. I was shocked when I saw the story. This time not a suicide, but a possible murder. </p>
<p>[UVA</a> women’s lacrosse player dead, men’s player charged - News - FOX Sports on MSN](<a href=“http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/virginia-lacrosse-murder-050310?gt1=39002]UVA”>http://msn.foxsports.com/other/story/virginia-lacrosse-murder-050310?gt1=39002)</p>
<p>These kids were supposed to graduate next month. :(</p>
<p>So, relationship=motive for murder? Really? Oh come on. If the existence of a relationship and a dead person automatically gave probable cause for murder, it would take 50 years to try a traffic case. And half the murder defendants would be dead before they got a trial.</p>
<p>A few hours for a murder investigation with no autopsy just screams that the cops didn’t do their due diligence. You don’t arrest then hope that probable cause shows up out of thin air. You have to have probable cause BEFORE you make an arrest. The kid’s lawyer should be filing a habeas writ faster than I can say habeas.</p>
<p>Saw this on line a little while ago, and felt sick. The young woman had “been in a relationship” with the guy and now he has been charged with murder…what is going on in this world?</p>
<p>He was not the one who called the ambulance. Her friends did when they came home and found her.</p>
<p>BTW…The cops don’t arrest people just because they were the ones who called 911.</p>
<p>No…a relationship does not equal murder. He likely confessed or the police have evidence.</p>
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<p>According to the police news conference, the roommates called the ambulance, not Huguely.</p>
<p>With your immediate assumptions that the police are corrupt and framing this young man, you seem no different than someone who assumes he is guilty without waiting for information.</p>
<p>I don’t know the socioeconomic background of the deceased, but I do know that the suspect attended an extremely elite prep school in D.C.</p>
<p>Personally, I am totally suspending my opinions until more information is forthcoming.</p>
<p>FLVADAD,</p>
<p>I heard about this earlier on the UVA forum. So tragic. What is also disturbing is an article from the Washington Post from 2006 that was shared. The accused student (a UVA men’s lacrosse player) was quoted about the Duke Lax sex scandal and the boy’s dad is quoted as saying:</p>
<p>"Huguely’s father, George, Sr. said yesterday that he’s had discussions with his son, who will play at University of Virginia next season, about staying out of situations that could be costly.</p>
<p>“Regardless of what winds up happening, you have to learn from this experience and take what you can from it,” George Huguely Sr. said. “You always have to remember and can’t let yourself be in a situation where something like this could happen.” </p>
<p>SO incredibly sad…</p>
<p>[Duke</a> Scandal Hits Home - washingtonpost.com](<a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101879.html]Duke”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101879.html)</p>
<p>[Police</a> Alert, U.Va.](<a href=“http://www.virginia.edu/emergency/message050310.html]Police”>http://www.virginia.edu/emergency/message050310.html)</p>
<p>From President Casteen’s letter to the University: </p>
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<p>This is so tragic and horrific for all involved. I cannot imagine the depth of pain for this girl’s parents, and all who loved her. It is bad enough to lose a child. But to lose a child to murder is unfathomable. And the timing of her being on the cusp of her adult life, about to graduate college, a time they all should be rejoicing. My heart aches for them. </p>
<p>I feel very sorry for this young man’s parents too (though not as horrific as their son is at least alive). But his life is forever wrecked and theirs will never be the same. And they also were looking forward to the imminent college graduation, a time to celebrate his life. They must be in shock. </p>
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<p>You’re right, they do have to have probable cause to arrest!! Where you go wrong is that you assume they arrested him without probable cause. They don’t do that. They had to have some very strong evidence right away to give them probable cause to arrest. </p>
<p>No information is out on the evidence but I’m sure they followed procedure and did not risk arresting him without cause. </p>
<p>He also did not call an ambulance. The roommates discovered her and called. And there is no evidence to suggest alcohol. From reports, it appears that roommates made an assumption in seeing her lifeless body that she was passed out. I doubt they assumed murder as a first instinct. They guessed what it was when they called for help. When help arrived, the young woman was no longer alive and officials could tell she was murdered. No details have yet emerged. It seems amazing to me that you would assume the young man was arrested without just cause.</p>
<p>There is already a thread on this topic in the Parent Cafe. I will merge the two threads now.</p>
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<p>FutureNYUstudent goes beyond assuming the young man was arrested without cause; he postulates that perhaps the police “manufactured evidence” against him.</p>
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<p>This is so tragic and horrific for all involved. I cannot imagine the depth of pain for this girl’s parents, and all who loved her. It is bad enough to lose a child. But to lose a child to murder is unfathomable. And the timing of her being on the cusp of her adult life, about to graduate college, a time they all should be rejoicing. My heart aches for them. </p>
<p>I read in one of the newspaper articles that Ms. Love’s dad passed away from cancer in 2003. And she has an older sister. I can’t imagine her mom’s pain. My heart breaks for her.</p>
<p>I think it’s interesting that the suspect is not a Facebook friend of the deceased, but his sister is. I wonder if that means that she “defriended” him recently.</p>
<p>^^^ right on.</p>
<p>for the others:
omg I’m taking my time out of an assignment due at 11:59 pm to say this, but I’m begging people not to let the accusations fly about class, society, or whatever stereotypes you want to fly into the picture. I am a student who sometimes complains about the rich students. Please make the appropriate class / race / group label stereotype comments in a thread about partying culture or w/e, not here. You have no idea how incredibly hurtful those comments are. </p>
<p>– an OOS Asian student on AccessUVA</p>
<p>The fact that the cops don’t even know that the dead girl was even murdered, that **a crime even took place<a href=“since%20they%20don’t%20know%20cause%20of%20death,%20they%20can’t%20conclude%20definitively%20that%20a%20murder%20took%20place”>/b</a>, let alone having probable cause that the guy in jail committed it, just rubs me the wrong way. You don’t arrest people on suppositions. You need cold, hard facts, which they don’t have as long as they have no autopsy report. They don’t even have definitive proof that a crime was committed, let alone committed by the suspect.</p>
<p>I don’t care what he said to the cops, people say things all the time. Doesn’t mean they should believe it all at face value. If a British guy comes on here and says he killed her, should they call up Scotland Yard to arrest him? It’s amazing what passes for “forensic” work with local cops.</p>
<p>Maybe it’s offending some of you that I’m too jaded, cynical, and skeptical to believe everything they say at face value.</p>