<p>futurenyustudent…you have NO IDEA what information they possess…you keep assuming it is suppositions on their part. They obviously have way more because as you say, they don’t arrest people without probable cause. I find what you are saying to be incredulous.</p>
<p>You also say they have no proof that a crime was committed but apparently from the little information that is available, it was obvious to those who responded that a crime had been committed.</p>
<p>How much could they possibly know? They don’t even know cause of death. Sloppy police work at its best.</p>
<p>They’re welcome to prove me wrong, with scientific evidence. Until then, I don’t trust them and I never will. They can start with a properly conducted autopsy.</p>
<p>Futurenyustudent,Again, things like talking about the “dead girl” are inappropriate and very distasteful. If you ever become a parent, you may get it someday.</p>
<p>There could be strong evidence - such as perhaps text messages that were sent prior to her death. </p>
<p>The injuries to her body could have strongly indicated that she was murdered especially if there were chokehold marks around her neck.</p>
<p>If his cell phone pings place him at the scene that night, if a neighbor saw him leaving her apt at a particular time, if the apt cameras show him leaving in a hurry that night, or something like that, then this isn’t just some stab in the dark by the police.</p>
<p>futurenyustudent:
You don’t know what THEY know. You are assuming they don’t have evidence yet. If it were all reported and you drew that conclusion, that’s one thing, but you are guessing they don’t have evidence. </p>
<p>For example, you say there is no proof a crime was committed until there is an autopsy? Come again? For the sake of the argument (not referring to this case), if someone has gunshot wounds and no gun is in the vicinity, one would assume a crime was committed. If one has injuries that come from being beaten, it is obvious a crime was committed. I could go on with more examples. </p>
<p>Then, for example, as far as evidence to arrest someone…and again, none of that has been released yet but I bet you they had enough to arrest or they would not have made the arrest yet…say there is evidence he was seen entering or leaving the apartment, or say his fingerprints are on her body. Say his cell phone was used at her location at the time she died. Say his DNA is on her body. Say he told a friend what happened and the friend was interviewed by police. Say he confessed. I could go on with zillions of things that they could have in evidence. The point is you don’t know what that is and assume they have nothing!</p>
<p>futurenyustudent … no one here is rash enough to take sides this early. Maybe the student felt so guilty he turned himself in.</p>
<p>when the cops came, they didn’t suspect murder… I don’t think. I mean, the first thought when we see “girl collapsed on floor” here is alcohol poisoning.</p>
<p>I actually have no idea who the hell you are. Please come down and tell us all what awful mistakes we’re making in this investigation.</p>
<p>I think futurenyustudent has been watching too many Law and Order episodes. It’s OK, I like Law and Order too. (CSI is too pseudoscientific for me.) </p>
<p>But please lay off the arrogance when it comes to you know, fellow college students. This isn’t Law and Order. This is life. </p>
<p>Please imagine discovering your roommate lying motionless on the floor of your apartment, your dorm or whatever. And sobbing as you fail to revive him/her.</p>
<p>Now go hug a friend. Or if you’re too manly for that, go drink a beer with your gang and drink to your everlasting friendship, or something. Because you never know.</p>
<p>futurenyustudent, you may wish to notice in the article I quoted above, that authorities say that they don’t wish to release yet the FACTS they have on the case. In other words, they have evidence, but haven’t released it to the public. But these facts obviously were cause for an arrest.</p>
<p>In any case, a young promising girl has been taken away from those who loved her, and she has not been given a chance to realize the dreams she had for her future. The facts of the case will be revealed at some point. Right now, it is about the sad tragedy that should never have happened and can never be undone.</p>
<p>According to the link in #47, police found her in her bad.</p>
<p>I can’t even imagine the pain that these two families are going through. Imagine that you’re getting prepared and excited to celebrate another milestone in your child’s life (college graduation) and you get one of these horrific phone calls: 1)your daughter has been found dead or 2)your son has been arrested for murder.</p>
<p>Out of respect for these two families, maybe it’s best to stop speculating on what happened and wait until the investigation is complete.</p>
<p>You don’t always need an autopsy report to conclude that someone was murdered.</p>
<p>Recently a woman was found dead in the street in a town near my own. She had been decapitated. A trail of blood ran from the body to her home. A chainsaw, still running, was found on the tailgate of a truck sitting in her driveway.</p>
<p>Her husband is not at the residence. His car was found abandoned, and a local car dealer reported that he had taken a truck for a test drive the morning the body was discovered and had never returned. His cousin reported that the husband had called him to tell him he had murdered his wife.</p>
<p>No autopsy report is needed here to make a reasonable preliminary assumption that she was murdered.</p>
<p>So even his lawyer is admitting he did it, but saying that it was a “tragic accident.”</p>
<p>Is that enough for you to connect him to the case, nyustudent?</p>
<p>I completely agree that nyustudent watches way too many television crime shows, and is talking as if this <em>is</em> a TV show, and not a real tragedy. Please stop.</p>
<p>If I am correct he was arrested before for alcohol related incidents. I am betting that if his attorney is admitting guilt his defense will be alcohol related. I believe I heard he is charged with 1st degree murder, which if I am correct means he intended to kill her. If that is true it would make sense that he is going to use mitigating circumstances, such as alcohol was the cause of the death occurring.</p>
<p>I don’t think NYU is a Law and Order junkie, I think that the waters run deeper than that.</p>
<p>Overall, the saddest part as a parent is that he was to graduate in a few weeks to start a bright future. Her parents thought that her life was just beginning and now the only thing they have left is remembering the last time they hugged her …it could have been months ago, and that makes me cry. I cry at the thought that maybe the last time they heard her voice was a week ago. The Huguley’s will always have that voice of their son, even if it is from a prison, her parents never will hear it again. They never had the chance to cherish that last phone call, I only hope that it was a happy one, not like many typical ones from kids where it was filled with can you put money in my checking account, how are your grades, when are your finals, in essence, all business.</p>
<p>I am going to call my DS today just to say I love you, because I do fall into that category about our phone calls being business and not about telling him I am proud of him. We always end it with I Love You, but I think we forget how we take that statement for granted. I think the best thing we as parents can show the Love family support is to understand how that is the one thing they would wish for is one more conversation to say those things.</p>
<p>Didn’t take long for him to lawyer up - tragic accident? Maybe some rough love or that choking game thing? Or maybe just a “little beating” that went too far?? We’ll wait for the autopsy report before we pass judgement as to the “tragic accident”. </p>
<p>Just sad sad all around…I feel for both families.</p>