I am an international student applying ED seeking full aid at Vanderbilt and have a 1500 (710 rw 790 math). Should I submit this score?
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absolutely.
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I would submit.
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Yes!
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1500 is very, very good. Congratulations! Yes, submit this score.
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Vanderbilt SAT Scores: Full Breakdown.
Interesting stats to also consider.
However, I’d probably recommend submitting a 1500 if it was my student.
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Those stats seem lower at the 25th percentile and, for English also the 75th percentile, than the ones published by Vandy itself here Class of 2028 Regular Decision Summary Statistics | The Vandy Admissions Blog | Vanderbilt University Not sure if the fact that the latter is RD only makes a difference.
The stats are the same stats in both links. At the 50 percentile, the composite score is a 1530 (750/780). Although the OP’s 1500 is closer to the 25 percentile, only 61% of admitted students submit any test scores while 39% are test optional. Moreover, a 1500 is still in the 98th percentile of all SAT test takers while 1530 is in the 99th percentile.
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The link you posted has middle 50 R&W 730-770 vs Vandy Blog 750-800, middle 50 math 760-800 vs the blog 780-800.
Agree the OP’s overall score is strong and in an environment where many don’t submit scores this poster should do so.
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Thank you for your insight! I will submit my scores then.
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In general, it’s best not to use third party sites to access college specific data…go to the source of the data. The data you linked is from Class of 2027 enrolled students, so current sophomores. Here’s the source document, Vandy’s CDS 2022-23
Vandy Class of 2028 CDS (enrolled students) is here (ranges a bit lower than the RD admitted numbers posted above by sj2727, enrolled numbers are typically lower than admitted):
For OP, I would lean towards submitting those scores, but defer to their HS counselor. OP do you have a Toefl or Ilets score that you will be submitting?
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Yes, I have a 111 (30 reading, 26 listening, 27 writing, 28 speaking).
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Hmmm. I see the stats as being the following:
| Section | 25th | 50th | 75th |
|---|---|---|---|
| Composite | 1490 | 1530 | 1570 |
| English | 730 | 750 | 770 |
| Math | 760 | 780 | 800 |
Agree. Didn’t see that Vanderbilt already published their CDS. Thanks.
I’m not sure where you are seeing this as you didn’t give a link (and it’s not quite the same as the CDS data posted above). The data below are RD and admitted students, so possibly different if your link is (1) all decision timeframes which will include hooked applicants in ED and/or (2) enrolled (rather than admitted) students.
(I don’t know if ED at Vandy specifically makes a difference for unhooked students. For some colleges it does and for others it seems not so much.)
Regular Decision Class of 2028 Admitted Student Profile
Number of U.S. States represented: 48
Number of citizenships represented: 59
Percent international: 13.4%
Percent who identify as first-generation: 18%
Percent from a rural or small town: 10.6%
Percent of students in the top ten percent of their graduating class: 90.8%*
SAT Middle 50% Evidence-Based Reading and Writing: 750-800**
SAT Middle 50% Math: 780-800**
ACT Middle 50%: 34-36**
*based on high schools that provide rank
**based on students who submitted testing
I made a typo in my post, that CDS is for Class of 2027 not Class of 2028
The cut and paste is from the link I posted.
It indicates the same numbers 750 Reading/writing and 780 for math at the 50th percentile as your post from Vanderbilt. I see no difference in the numbers we are posting. Maybe I am reading it incorrectly? See below:
This is from your Vanderbilt post:
SAT Middle 50% Evidence-Based Reading and Writing: 750-800**
SAT Middle 50% Math: 780-800**
This from the third party source I posted:
| Section | 25th | 50th | 75th |
|---|---|---|---|
| Composite | 1490 | 1530 | 1570 |
| English | 730 | 750 | 770 |
| Math | 760 | 780 | 800 |
Regardless, either SAT score form either source is higher than 1500, but the 1500 score is extremely good and I believe the OP is thinking of submitting the scores.
Ok, you’re not understanding what I mean, that’s where the misunderstanding is. The middle 50 bottom is the 25th percentile and the top is the 75th percentile. You have just highlighted the 50th percentile. So on your table it actually shows the middle 50 for R&W as 730-770 and math as 760-800.
Always better to use the actual college as your source, whether published as profile data or its CDS.
Definitely the score should be submitted, but with realism about the selectiveness of the school.
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I agree, as I already stated, use the college source. It’s generally better, should be more accurate, etc. etc. of course every data will have its biases. However, using a third party source is not bad for purposes of getting a general idea and is helpful as well. I would surmise that these third party sources gather their data from the same source. Regardless, I only see from the Vanderbilt source the middle 50th percentile. I do not see the 25-75th percentile listed. I will look again. I’m pointing out that your Vanderbilt course says the exact same number as the third party source. 750/780 at the 50th percentile. That’s all I’m pointing out. In fact, there’s no need to reply again to this post since it has nothing to do with the OP’s post. But what I will do is relook at your Vandy site.
I revisited the Vandy blog and it says nothing about 25-75%? Not sure where you say that there’s a difference? The Blog only refers to the 50th % which is what I highlighted. Maybe the confusion lies with the fact Vandy’s blog says 750-800 and 780-800? I took the -800 not as the range but rather what the maximum score is out of. 750 out of a total of 800 and 780 out of a total of 800.
Maybe i didn’t explain it clearly. The “middle 50%” is the range that lies between the 25th percentile and the 75th percentile*. It is not just the 50th percentile. Relook at what you posted and what I posted. 800 IS the top of the middle 50, not just the maximum. It’s not unusual at top schools to have the 75th percentile at the max score, especially when it’s test optional.
*You can confirm this easily on google, including an older Vandy blog that comes up as a top hit searching middle 50.
“ The middle 50 % is a range, specifically the range of scores between the 25thpercentile and the 75th percentile for the given group.”
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