<p>i heard about this school, but i am not sure. is it an easier acceptance rate? and what are the majors in this school? can you change your major…to one at the normal school?</p>
<p>There is no SUNY school…</p>
<p>Cornell has a few state-subsidized schools and that pretty much means that you get a cheaper tuition if ur from NY. They are also mostly the #1 schools in their fields so no they aren’t “easy”.</p>
<p>“Normal”?</p>
<p>It’s not SUNY. It gets state funding, as do a lot of other private colleges…</p>
<p>as what the others have said so far, it doesn’t exist at Cornell. They are all “normal” schools</p>
<p>Discussion of the relationship between Cornell & SUNY. Decide for yourself what this means.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=148434[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=148434</a></p>
<p>next time someone wants to ask this question, search the forum, im pretty sure it’s been asked over 1000 times.</p>
<p>Mony that was a really stupid thread. Were you trying to get people to feel like they weren’t part of Cornell or something. wow…</p>
<p>Ummm…sure guys, whatever you say.</p>
<p>So, I’ll just start telling people…</p>
<p>“I’m a student at SUNY Cornell, comparable to SUNY Buffalo and the like, only the students aren’t as intelligent at my school.”</p>
<p>Im pretty sure that if you go to Cornell, even if its the contract colleges, you’re as smart as any corneillian (except for for engineering physics people … they have to be uber geniuses to get a major in that)</p>
<p>Seriously, the only reason Cornell keeps them contract is because it helps increase their endowment. To tell you the truth I’m glad Cornell has the contract schools without them we’d be just like every other ivy league, instead we have colleges that are better at what they do than any other university.</p>
<p>The only thing that Cornell needs to drastically change is its money managing group, we need the people who managed harvard’s money (they returned 16%+ gains every year from 1990 to 2000). Other than that, I think Cornell is slowly but surely regaining its rankings, improving its campus, definately improving its housing and all around it’s getting a lot better.</p>
<p>btw i think the term “suny school” sounds hilarious, get it “sunny school”.</p>
<p>I think monydad only shows up when there are threads regarding “SUNY Cornell”, strange.</p>
<p>r u being saracastic ajkates</p>
<p>Perhaps this will help clarify things from Cornell’s point of view:</p>
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<p>Dear Uncle Ezra,</p>
<p>I searched the archives and apparently nobody has asked this before. How many colleges or universities in the USA besides Cornell, are both endowed and statutory? I don’t mean an endowed college that also gets some government funding, but a place where entire pieces are funded one way or the other, as Cornell is. We aren’t unique in this, are we? </p>
<pre><code> Chronos
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<p>Dear Chronos,</p>
<p>Cornell is unique…aren’t we special in this regard?! A clarification: many schools receive ‘government’ funding from Federal, State, and local governments. We are unique in that Cornell is under contract with the State University of New York system – SUNY – to provide instruction under the Cornell umbrella. The four ‘contract colleges’ are Veterinary Medicine, Industrial and Labor Relations (ILR) , College of Agriculture and Life Sciences (CALS), and Human Ecology. They are not ‘state’ schools; each are as much Cornell as Arts and Sciences, Engineering, Architecture, Art and Planning (AAP), Hotel, Law, Johnson Graduate School of Management (JGSM) and the Graduate School. Further, what is unique is that Cornell is New York State’s Land Grant University…typically, it is a state university that is each state’s Land Grant University (e.g., University of Michigan, University of California, Davis, University of Illinois/Champaign, etc.). This feature gives us a special diversity - don’t you think?
Uncle Ezra</p>
<p>Another one… I’ve posted this one before, but I think it’s time for a re-post!</p>
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<p>Dear Uncle Ezra,
I have a question concerning Cornell’s status as an Ivy League School. According to definition,
an Ivy League school is a private instution, and part of some type of sports league which was established back in the day. These institutions include Brown, Dartmouth, Harvard, Yale, and Princeton. However, Cornell is made up of not only the private A+S, Engineering, and Architecture schools, but Hum Ec, Ag, and ILR. (Not sure about Hotel)Despite any notability they might have, they are significantly easier to get into for NY state residents, and cheaper as well due to their status as a public state school. Therefore,
isn’t it true that these schools are NOT Ivy League? shed the light proud arts and science student
Dear proud,</p>
<p>I too am proud of the College of Arts and Sciences undergraduates just as I am equally proud of the outstanding students in Human Ecology, CALS, ILR, Hotel, Engineering, and AAP, and the graduate and professional schools as well. Cornell University is a unique and wonderful place with many special qualities. I think, however, that you have several misconceptions about the university, including its status as an Ivy League institution, its admissions policies, and the caliber of our student body.</p>
<p>1) The Ivy League is an athletic conference. What sets this group of schools apart from other conferences is its adherence to the Ivy agreement, which most notably reflects common admissions standards and the absence of athletic scholarships. The Ivy schools are Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Penn, Princeton, and Yale. To learn more see Q11 from 2/18/03 posting. </p>
<p>2) Cornell University is a land grant university for the State of New York, so our mission is both public and private, which is one of the many unique features that sets Cornell apart from our Ivy peers. This standing also puts us in another elite group of other land grant institutions across the U.S.</p>
<p>3) At one time, Cornell University’s contract colleges (Agriculture and Life Sciences, Human Ecology, and Industrial and Labor Relations) used residency as a factor in the admissions process. However, it is important to note that these colleges have always admitted the best students, regardless of residency. As the applicant pools have begun to shift and the university receives larger numbers of domestic and international applications, university statistics suggest that residency has actually become a non-factor in admission to these colleges. In general, the proportion of New York State residents who are admitted and enroll in these colleges is equivalent to the proportion of NYS students in the entire applicant pool. This has actually been the case for several years.</p>
<p>I hope this helps to clarify things for you. And that you, in turn, will have a newfound respect for all of your CU classmates.</p>
<p>“I think monydad only shows up when there are threads regarding “SUNY Cornell”, strange”</p>
<p>haha, i saw that too but figured i’d be the only one who would have noticed. Thanks!</p>
<p>I post on this topic because in the past on occasion I’ve felt that prospective applicants should have more information available to them than they were otherwise getting from other posters. Some of the responses I’ve read in the past have had a particular spin to them that I didn’t believe captured the nuances of the situation. </p>
<p>The link I referenced gives other views of the relationship, from the viewpoint of SUNY and of the courts (by extrapolation). It also gives links to some portions of the Cornell charter describing the relationship. I think these are relevant.</p>
<p>Students at the contract colleges have nothing to be defensive about. They are top students, attending top colleges in their respective fields. That does not mean that their relationship with SUNY must go unexamined, should be glossed over, or “spun”.</p>
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that the “contract colleges” at Cornell are actually not unique. New York actually has five “contract colleges” (or “statutory colleges”). Four are at Cornell, as listed above. The fifth is the New York State College of Ceramics, which is operated by Alfred University under contract with SUNY.</p>
<p>i’d say the contract affiliation of a private school is unique, but the land grant status of the school is not. I believe every state has a land grant institution (ie. MIT is a land grant school). </p>
<p>from the cornell chronicle website:</p>
<p>“Cornell’s responsibility as a land-grant university requires the institution to dedicate itself to basic and applied research and, in the tradition of public service, to be equally dedicated to passing that knowledge on in meaningful and relevant ways throughout the state. This page will detail ways that Cornell is accomplishing this mission.”</p>
<p>link:</p>
<p><a href=“Home | Cornell Chronicle”>Home | Cornell Chronicle;