SUNYIT Electrical and Computer Engineering

<p>Hi, I have been accepted to SUNYIT. SUNYIT has a new major called the Electrical and Computer Engineering Major. This major currently is not accredited by ABET, although it is seeking accreditation by ABET. The structure of the major meets the ABET qualifications. I was informed by a professor that the major is on the verge of receiving accreditation by ABET. Now the ABET accreditation makes all the difference, for the Engineering field. I also plan to double major with Computer Science and finish this entire double major within 5 years. So based on this situation, would anyone recommend this school and if so for what reason?</p>

<p>I graduated from SUNY IT in 2001 (BS in comp sci). Currently both their computer engineering and electrical engineering programs are accredited. I personally don’t think a double major is necessary. You could minor in comp sci and learn enough. The goal is employability. Double majoring in two similar engineering curriculums won’t improve your employability.</p>

<p>So in my opinion, I would pick one or the other engineering program (computer or electrical), and minor in comp sci. If the new major become accredited soon enough for you to transfer into the program and graduate on time then switch.</p>

<p>Looks like [url=&lt;a href=“http://www.sunyit.edu/programs/undergraduate]SUNYIT[/url”&gt;http://www.sunyit.edu/programs/undergraduate]SUNYIT[/url</a>] does not list any Computer Engineering or Electrical Engineering major; they just have the not-yet-ABET-accredited Electrical and Computer Engineering major and a Computer & Information Science major.</p>

<p>According to [url=&lt;a href=“http://www.abet.org/AccredProgramSearch/AccreditationSearch.aspx]ABET[/url”&gt;http://www.abet.org/AccredProgramSearch/AccreditationSearch.aspx]ABET[/url</a>], the only ABET-accredited programs at SUNYIT are Engineering Technology programs.</p>

<p>ABET lists these accredited programs:</p>

<p>State University of New York Institute of Technology at Utica/Rome ,NY, United States </p>

<p>Civil Engineering Technology(BS)[1997] </p>

<p>Computer Engineering Technology(BS)[1988] </p>

<p>Electrical Engineering Technology(BS)[1982] </p>

<p>Industrial Engineering Technology(BS)[1982] </p>

<p>Mechanical Engineering Technology(BS)[1982]</p>

<p>“____ Engineering Technology” is not the same as “____ Engineering”.</p>

<p>yes i am aware of this. the electrical and computer engineering program is a new program is one major yet to be accredited. therefore i was wondering if i should go to sunyit, due to the lack of ABET accreditation. According to professors, the program is on the verge of receiving accreditation and if a student is to graduate one year prior to the accreditation, the student shall receive the accreditation. thats y im askin if you guys think it will be worth going to. Also I want to learn about both the hardware and the software that’s why i plan to double major with “Electrical and Computer Engineering” with “Computer Science”</p>

<p>Have you been accepted at any other university with an ABET-accredited EE or ECE or EECS degree program?</p>

<p>Take computer science as a major and add in some CompE electives. Most CompE hardware courses will have computer architecture and/or digital circuits as a prerequisite. You will then have the tools to go into hardware and won’t have to worry about ABET because ABET is really not needed for a CS major.</p>

<p>Am working with some students who are transferring to SUNYIT. From what I know from my role on the counseling end- to make a final decision, you should first decide what career you will want as your primary. Is your path set on becoming a licensed professional engineer? Yes- then the engineering program is a must AND you are correct the degree needs to be from an ABET accreditated school. I have heard similar to you, that SUNYIT is in the process of becoming accredited- so a student looking to study all four years there should be grandfathered in to the accreditation when it is awarded. I also was told that their program is 100% supported by Binghamton University, and the program’s curriculum has been modeled after BU and SUNYIT’s faculty taught courses for Binghamton. That, I think, speaks very highly of the expected outcome. Whatever you decide- Computer Scientist or Professional Engineer- good luck!</p>

<p>@GLOBALTRAVELER
I have been thinking about what you have told me. I was wondering what if I was to double major in both Computer Science and ECE. Then how would I fair in the real world?
@nyadmprof
so would you say by the end of 4 years the program should become accredited, or it would not be worth going to?</p>

<p>@MoFlow236</p>

<p>I still do not think you have to double major in CS and ECE. Within the CompE program, you will have some electives…both technical and free. You can use the electives on additional CS courses. Since you have to take part of the CS program for CompE, with more CS elective courses, you would have quite a bit of CS coursework under your belt.</p>

<p>@MoFlow236</p>

<p>I just looked at the program and the ECE major requires the CS courses Data Structures and Operating Systems. Just take Theory of Programming Languages and Algorithms as electives and you will have at least enough CS courses for admission to a graduate CS program. Add in a software engineering course and a database course and you are prepared for software engineering also since CompE already requires computer network courses.</p>

<p>That is just 4 extra CS courses.</p>

<p>@GlobalTraveler
alright this sounds great, but remember you stated to major in computer science and take elective courses in Computer Engineering. I was wondering if I should do that instead of what you just said because the ECE courses is not yet accredited by ABET as I previously stated. That’s what’s stopping me from going.</p>

<p>@MoFlow236</p>

<p>Hmmm…I think you should ask the department when it expects to be accredited. The good thing is that your CS program allows a lot of free electives. Actually, I don’t think I have ever saw a BSCS program with so many allowed electives.</p>

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<p>Actually, [CS</a> at UC Berkeley](<a href=“http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/csugrad/#upperdiv]CS”>http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/csugrad/#upperdiv) has only two specified junior/senior level courses. Two other CS courses have to be chosen from a list of nine others, plus any two CS courses, are also required. Additional technical electives from CS and other departments are required to make at least 27 semester units (most courses are 4 semester units).</p>

<p>[UC</a> Berkeley’s EECS major](<a href=“http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Programs/Notes/Content/Chapter2.pdf]UC”>http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Programs/Notes/Content/Chapter2.pdf) allows even more latitude with junior/senior level courses, with no specified junior/senior courses, although there are (fairly large) subsets of EE and CS courses where at least some of them must be taken from. However, there are more specified freshman/sophomore level courses.</p>

<p>@ucbalumnus</p>

<p>I think that is great. It allows a CS major to tailor that degree to the current technology at that time.</p>

<p>Actually I have spoken with a professor from there. He stated that it is on the verge of being accredited although it is not currently accredited. For specific dates, it is unsure, but it will be done in the near future according to him.</p>

<p>I have just spoken with the professor today. He has informed the program can not become accredited by 2016. “ECE accreditation cannot be obtained until after the first student
graduates with the degree. At this point I would assume that we would
apply for ABET accreditation in 2015, be granted accreditation in 2016
which would cover all our graduates.” Those are the words of the professor. Any feedback?</p>

<p>My feedback is that if you want the engineering degree, go to UB or Binghamton.</p>

<p>If you want the comp sci degree and just want an understanding of the hardware, SUNYIT is fine as a backup.</p>

<p>And as I told you in PM, I graduated from SUNYIT (comp sci). It is a fine SUNY. But if you really want to be an engineer, you want the ABET accreditation.</p>

<p>Alright thank you for the feedback, although I have applied to Binghamton and UB but still have not heard back from them yet.</p>