<p>Harry-You obviously don’t know much about Syracuse. Just quoting general statistics doesn’t tell the story of Syracuse U. at all. Syracuse is a university made up of a diverse set of colleges. Several of those colleges are number 1 or top 5 in their categories. The I-school is ranked number one in the nation. The architecture/ interior design and communication schools are in the top 3 of their areas. The public policy school is also top 5. if a student is interested in focusing on one of these areas then, yes, believe it or not, Syracuse is just as good as Princeton. Picking a school is not just about a cursory scan of a u.s.news-like ranking of general statistics.</p>
<p>Harry is just an immature instigator. After all, look at the screen name he picked. Does anyone with an emotional age over 12 pick names like that?</p>
<p>Well said research.
fallen, I believe that’s actually his real name. LOL. (Unfortunately)</p>
<p>“You asked me to do a little research so I did. Sorry to let reality get in the way.”</p>
<p>Harry, I think you missed what I said. I’ll repeat it just in case you decided to skim rather than actually read it. </p>
<p>: “I suggest you do some thorough research and come back to this forum.”
Thorough </p>
<p>Thorough research isn’t just taking statistics and throwing them in here like that is what represents the quality of a school. Thorough research as researchmaven clearly pointed out is also looking at where each of the programs are ranked, the yield of the school, retention rate, quality of life there and professor accessibility etc. It is much more than the garbage you posted above.</p>
<p>People like you or outofstate (whatever her name is) irks me when you make crass remarks about an institution and don’t even attend the school. After all, I’m pretty sure you don’t go to SU so you has no business in this forum anyway.</p>
<p>So Syracuse has one of the top programs for interior decorating? That’s what makes it elite? Accessibility of Profs? The student to professor ratio is among the worst of all private colleges. </p>
<p>Syracuse is a BU/Penn State safety school. Do you disagree that it is, at best, the 5th best in the Big East?</p>
<p>Dionte, Georgetown football doesn’t play in the big east either. I only mentioned ND because they have a major football program. BTW, I’ve watched your namesake play. He can play and I hope he comes back for another year. That kid from south america is going to be a player too.</p>
<p>Fallenchemist wants me so bad. She follows me from forum to forum. Chemist, send me a pic and I’ll let you know if I’m interested.</p>
<p>House of London - I rather doubt it is his real name, but certainly that would explain his bitterness and negativity issues. But would any parent really be that cruel? If so, he was saddled with two strikes from the start, a horrible name and cruel parents. So I will cut him some slack. I will ignore the fact that he doesn’t understand that interior design in this context isn’t about picking drapes, but is integrated into the architecture program. I will aso ignore the fact that he claims to have picked Georgetown as his undergrad school in one thread, but then says it was GW in another. Of course it is possible he was kicked out of one and had to go to the other. I will also ignore the fact that he uses the SAT stats for Syracuse to say they are an inferior school, but then completely ignores a similar difference in the same stats between Tulane and Miami (FL) to claim they are equal academically</p>
<p>I will not respond to Harry any more. It is impossible to deal with someone that is as uncivilized as he.</p>
<p>Wow, I have a stalker! I’m sorry you didn’t get the sarcasm in the GW post. </p>
<p>My name is Harold, what’s wrong with that? Should I go by Rold?</p>
<p>People have kind of missed my bias, though. I have reason to dislike Syracuse but I stand by my comments.</p>
<p>“I will also ignore the fact that he uses the SAT stats for Syracuse to say they are an inferior school, but then completely ignores a similar difference in the same stats between Tulane and Miami (FL) to claim they are equal academically”</p>
<pre><code> Please look up the definition of ignore.
I didn’t ignore the SAT numbers, I just took GPA into account (3.49 at Tulane and 4.2 at Miami). In fact, The Princeton Review (the source that you use) rates Miami as more selective than Tulane. Tulane is rated a 94 and Miami a 96.
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<p>Also, your SAT stats for Tulane are skewed. The numbers you are refer to (used by Princeton Review) is for accepted applicants, not for those who enroll. Tulane has a very low yield compared to most other schools. The Tulane yield is something like 15 to 20 percent. Therefore, the majority (80 to 85 percent) of the kids with the SATs listed opt to go somewhere else! That is why people consider Tulane a safety school. Miami’s yield isn’t on par with harvard but it is more like 25 percent.</p>
<p>Not only that, U of Miami and Tulane have close academic ratings. Miami - 85 and Tulane 86. That’s as close as you can get.</p>
<p>Given the foregoing, I said that I’d rather go to Miami because it’s in a better city and has better sports.</p>
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<p>Sorry, but I’m a former BU student and a person from PA very familiar with PSU; this isn’t remotely true. The three are peer schools, and I’m not particularly fond of Syracuse and have no bias in the matter.</p>
<p>alot of really stupid things have been said here. Actually I rejected both the University of Miami as well as Boston University to attend Syracuse.</p>
<p>Not that I want to get involved in this in any way, shape or form, but I don’t think you can compare a weighted GPA of 4.2 at Miami vs. an unweighted GPA of 3.49 at Tulane. Miami, like Elon, reports its recalculated GPA. Tulane, like most schools, follows the more common practice of reporting unweighted GPA.</p>
<p>This is too rich to ignore. So many mistakes, and just lack of judgement of any kind.</p>
<p>Let’s take the easy one first. 4.2 GPA vs. 3.49. Really?? Emory reports 3.82, Vanderbilt a 4.0 ummm, you think there might be a weighted vs. unweighted thing going on here? The selectivity index is well known as a joke, since it relies on some of the same non-consistent data. The only stat that is equally comparable for all schools is the SAT/ACT stat. And you are just flat out wrong about the scores reported being for accepted applicants, it is for the actual class that came in. I looked at 10 different universities besides Tulane to make sure that was always the case and in each case the scores for the actual class that entered matched what was on Princeton Review.</p>
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Again, an absurd statement. Obviously for some people it is a safety school, for some right on, and for some a stretch.</p>
<p>Go to Miami. Be happy.</p>
<p>Sorry, I forgot to post the link to the Tulane website where it clearly states that those scores are for the incoming class, not the admitted class. Don’t even bother to say Tulane is lying, you would have no proof.</p>
<p>[Tulane</a> Admission: Getting Into Tulane](<a href=“http://admission.tulane.edu/apply/gettinginto.php]Tulane”>http://admission.tulane.edu/apply/gettinginto.php)</p>
<p>Oh, and there was another thread on CC that shows the average SAT for Tulane is considerably higher than for Miami, not just the middle 50%. 1958 vs. 1875.</p>
<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-act-tests-test-preparation/310352-list-average-sat-scores-50-colleges-universities.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-act-tests-test-preparation/310352-list-average-sat-scores-50-colleges-universities.html</a></p>
<p>So in essence your rants about Tulane being overrated comes down to some Tulane grads you may or may not know saying that Tulane is as good as an Ivy League school. What an intelligent basis for your conclusion. I think we can all dismiss you now, based on that, your other mistakes and fabrications, and your generally inflammatory and condescending style.</p>
<p>You just can’t help yourself! Once again you have hijacked a forum. While you have used the Princeton Review as your source of college information (do you need a link to yourself citing it?), when it doesn’t jibe with your distorted reality it is suddenly inaccurate and a joke.</p>
<p>If you need to keep stalking me please do it in the Tulane room so people here can discuss Syracuse. And please send a pic so I know whether I should enjoy being the prey.</p>
<p>PS - A 1958 average means the average student at tulane scored around a 650 on each section. That is toward the bottom end of what The Princeton Review reports. Based on those numbers you would expect and average SAT score somewhere around 2015. That should show you that the SAT scores on PR are from accepted applicants. Since almost 10,000 are accepted to fill 1500 spots, it is obviously a backup plan for the vast majority of accepted applicants.</p>
<p>And all of that is assuming that the 1958 number that comes from a thread on this board is accurate! It is a cc thread that is over 2 years old and that is your source!?! Didn’t you ever hear of citing primary sources. This source isn’t even a secondary source, it is more akin to hearsay.</p>
<p>I only used Princeton Review as an easy place to find the SAT/ACT scores, which are accurate. You really are something else. The other things you mention (GPA, selectivity index) have the problems I already mentioned and I never used those. I only used SAT/ACT scores, which I could have gotten anywhere. Princeton Review is convenient because they post them in the same place for all schools.
What nonsense. As you pointed out with Syracuse, and there are certainly others, they report schools with lower SAT scores all the time. Your statement makes no sense. I will admit I missed the date on that thread, I got it off a Google search. Thanks for pointing that out, but then how does it make sense to use that old data and compare it to the new data of an average of 2015 and use that as proof that it is for admitted students. That makes so little sense in any case that it is mind-boggling you came up with it. You have absolutely zero basis for claiming those are the stats for admitted students rather than matriculated students, while I cited it plainly that it is for the actual class.</p>
<p>It does in fact turn out that the spread between Tulane and Miami has only gotten wider, lol. Tulane’s is indeed 2015 for the class of 2012, while Miami’s is 1915. Thanks for making me find the update that further obliterates your point.</p>
<p>Since the discussion is here, I will post here. I am sure everyone is entertained by your breath-taking lack of logic.</p>
<p>By the way, I am not gay so sending you my pic is not an option. I don’t mind that you are gay, just telling you I am not.</p>
<p>Please don’t tell me you are a male with a name like that!</p>
<p>What are the odds that my should be 2115 happens to be dead on? Actually, it is a very rough estimate that I calculated myself. Apparently your source did the same thing. So your point is that Miami students score, on average, 30 points lower on each section. That may be true (I don’t truthfully know, nor do I want to waste my time finding out) but they also have significantly higher GPA’s in Highschool. And a neutral source that specializes in this type of information says Miami is more selective than Tulane. It’s that simple. I looked it up on PR, the leading authority on this. It is right there in black & white, Miami is more selective than Tulane. </p>
<p>You will, of course, dispute it, call it a joke, whatever. It is what it is. You are the official Tulane booster on CC so you will spend your time trying to find fault in the PR where it doesn’t say what you want it to and agree with it when it does. </p>
<p>You are aware that 84% of the accepted students this year chose to go elswhere, right?</p>
<p>Again, I suggest that if you are going to debate this nonsense that you do it in the Tulane forum. I noticed you are from RI. I guess you were rejected by BC, Tufts, NYU?</p>
<p>PS - if you are not gay why are you stalking a Harry Balzak?</p>
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<p>So because they’re from a particular area means they applied to and were rejected by schools in that area?</p>
<p>So tell me Harry, or whatever your name really is, what about fallenchemist connotes gender to you? Can’t wait to hear this twisted thinking.</p>
<p>Again, since this is too difficult a concept for you, I will try it again. I never agreed with PR, I used them as a source of a widely listed stat. It could have been any site that lists SAT/ACT scores from schools. I never cited a Princeton review generated stat. Obviously PR is not the generator of these stats, and they list them accurately, so I got the info from their site. So PR itself has nothing to do with this. They do conduct surveys on soft topics like Best Dorms, etc, but those are clearly just surveys of opinions, not hard stats. As for GPA, you don’t know that Miami is higher, although it would be fairly meaningless if they were since GPA is not consistent from high school to high school. But in this case the PR value cited for Miami is WEIGHTED, while Tulane’s is UNWEIGHTED. Not sure why that is too hard for you to grasp. It is actually embarrassing for you that you didn’t realize that right off. I never cited Princeton review stats like GPA and selectivity rating because I knew they were bogus. Here is a quote from the PR site:</p>
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Since they use inconsistent high school GPA’s in the calculation, the number is meaningless. And I would like to poll the audience to see how many people think you really have a neutral source that specializes in this type of information. Sure you do. How convenient.</p>
<p>You really have made a fool of yourself enough in various posts on CC. You should stop. Yes, I am a Tulane booster, never hid that. But I also never made a claim I could not back up, and the couple of times I erred on a citation I admitted it when corrected. You, on the other hand, started most of this with a fairly vitriolic “Tulane is overrated” rant which you can only back up by saying it is overrated by a few alums you know. Nice job.</p>
<p>i really appreciate everyone’s input!!</p>
<p>“Fallenchemist wants me so bad. She follows me from forum to forum. Chemist, send me a pic and I’ll let you know if I’m interested.”</p>
<p>Harry, you’re basically through on this board. You have nothing valid to say. You make the stupidest and most immature points, and when someone refutes them, you make idiotic, crass remarks in an attempt to offend people. Needless to say, it doesn’t work. Just get over yourself and go back to Georgetown (all the while telling people you go to GWU). Dont worry, I wont tell anyone about your dishonesty. </p>
<p>*Just giving you a much-needed reality check.</p>
<p>Another one missed the sarcasm in the GW post. Do I need to explain it to you?</p>
<p>EmoChemist, where on PR does it say weighted vs. unweighted or did you just make that up because you can’t accept that Miami gets students with higher gpa’s?</p>
<p>I’m done posting here. This has nothing to do with syracuse. I posted what I think the syracuse stereotype is so I’ll leave it at that. As I have posted at least twice before, this is not the right forum to debate the merits of emory’s safety school (Tulane, not syracuse - for those with difficulty in reading comprehension). Actually, I don’t really want to further your man crush by engaging you at all but I will if you need me to. I just want to do it in the appropriate forum.</p>