Taking a Gap year - Deferred Enrollment

@doschicos It would definitely be a new experience for me. Would it be possible for me to score internships/work in places with better weather with a Wisconsin degree?

I agree, I don’t think a gap year will change your application enough for you to be reconsidered and accepted to schools that rejected you this time around. In fact, you might be disadvantaged at schools that already have your data and reasons for rejecting you the first time. If reapplying, I would compile a whole new list of schools (you can still pick some of the other top ones you mentioned above such as Rice that you haven’t applied to) and also some good schools with higher acceptance that you would still be happy to go to, I think there’s quite a few more in the middle range between, say, Rice and UWM.

And I wouldn’t defer entrance to schools you’ve been accepted this time. It’s a risk to decline but if you really want to do a gap year I think you have to take it. And someone else said above, it’s not what you want to hear but you have to set your expectations realistically. I know it’s not what you want to hear but even with transferring it’s not guaranteed. I am a US citizen applying from abroad who also took a gap year to reapply and still didn’t get acceptances to my top choices (even after choosing lower schools this time round). Considering there are so many US applicants with near perfect SATs etc who still get rejected from these top schools, it’s difficult to assume you will get in the second time trying.

Just a thought, would you consider applying to UK universities? There are some good ones that are a lot easier to get into (even Oxbridge), especially when you already know what major you want to do.

Good luck anyways, I understand the feeling of disappointment and desperation to do anything to achieve your goals.

@tinker These schools retain all the data from previous years? Woah that’s new to me. I think the best course of action for me would be to go Wisconsin and have a kickass time and try to transfer after one year, and even if that fails, I might as well as live with it because it’s still a great school.

Actually, I am considering the University of Edinburgh, but I don’t think I’d prefer Edinburgh over Wisconsin. I would never give up the American Dream.

Are you coming to the US to study or because you want to move here to work? I think they require different types of Visas.

There are many, many other students who want to live and work in the US. Why would we want someone with that attitude when there are so many other hard working, ethical people to choose from?

@austinmshauri Yeah it’s not like I am trying to find a short cut to anything? What makes you think I am not hard-working and won’t contribute to the economy or add to the culture of the United States of America? I am one of the most hardworking and determined individuals out of my peers and I am the only one who is not going to a great university. That’s kinda unfair so I would rather bend the rules than give into ‘fate’.

Does everyone in the USA play by the books?
Does me lying about why I am taking a gap year really affect anyone negatively?

I disagree that the school that accepted you isn’t great. You can attain your goals from there. What I wish you would think about is how quickly and easily you seemed to jump to “ethics mean less than nothing” when things didn’t go the way you wanted. I have no doubt you worked very hard to be a successful student. Work hard to become a successful person too. It doesn’t matter what any other person does. @TopTier could explain it better, but what I’m saying is that you have a chance to determine what sort of person you want to be. If ethics truly mean “less than nothing” to you, then no, I don’t see that you have much to offer to our culture.

“Does everyone in the USA play by the books? Does me lying about why I am taking a gap year really affect anyone negatively?” Honestly, if you are asking questions like this and denigrating UWM and Purdue as somehow not worthy of your presence, I would be in the camp of those who suggest that you look for a different country in which to obtain your education.

I think any deferral involves committing to that particular college. I’m not sure that you can be deferred by two separate colleges. You should check the policies at each, instead of depending on advice from anonymous strangers on the Internet. You have created multiple threads in order to post the same complaints and receive the same advice. You do know the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Take a gap year, if you’d like. Please don’t expect anyone here to tell you how much more you deserved to get into your top choices than all the outstanding students, from all over the world, who got in (or didn’t).

@woogzmama Yeah I know. The college admission process has rendered me insane :stuck_out_tongue:

Well I’ll take the ethics quote with a grain of salt, I think that’s just the stress of college admissions talking. Anyway, CONGRATS on the places you got in – those are fine institutions, and you can get a great education at them.

Re: the gap year, I don’t think it’ll achieve what you want it to. If you are able to increase your stats somewhat, they still won’t be good enough to guarantee admission. Why don’t you excel at a school you DID get into, and then aim for a prestigious graduate school? I think that would be more valuable than taking a gap year.

Good luck!

@trisherella Yeah I will go one of those places and kick butt. Thank you so much :slight_smile:

You really haven’t thought some of these things through.

  1. Your ethics and the overall devious ways were surmised in your applications, so I suspect, that came through in the applications.

  2. Your 2100 SAT ain’t cutting it as an international student for UC admission nor is it good enough for the other schools given other international competition.

  3. Re the UC’s and transferring, you need to have 60 transferable units (which means two years of study) to possibly transfer. OOS transfers are extremely difficult because the UC’s, first and foremost, take California Community College students. Now how would that look to your family and friends if you had to go to a basal community college first?

  4. Once you’ve been rejected from one UC, that admissions committee tends to stick with their results, unless you’ve really changed in yourself.

  5. It is very, extremely, difficult NOW, to attempt to stay in the US after your graduation. It is assumed that you will return to your country.

Employers are required to fill jobs with American citizens and permanent residents.

They have to indicate that there is no US citizen that can fill that position, and, they have to fill out and pay for sponsorship. American companies don’t have that kind of patience nor money. It’s easier just to hire fresh US grads for the STEM positions, and, these US students are now graduating in droves.

Plus many positions in CS now require security clearances which are completed using federal resources. As a citizen alone, this is difficult and time-consuming; as a non-citizen, it is not happening. You need to consult with @B@r!um, as she has more experience in this area.

As I see it, you can attend a very good school now, or . . . . . . . .risk not getting in anywhere, next year, with tougher and increased competition.

@aunt bea woah woah woah. What’s with everyone attacking my ‘ethics’. I haven’t done anything ‘unethical’ in my life. I was just frustrated from the college admissions process that’s all and I was venting.

@aunt bea Hmmm. Even scores like 2260/800 in all subjects aren’t cutting it these days haha (some of my friends got rejected with those) Wow the situation is really intense!

So I might as well as go with a good college right now and not depend on a better one in the future :expressionless:

Thanks for the advise!

@aunt bea but then again I got friends with scores like 1950 getting into berkeley too. So not sure what to believe.

Ok my personal experience (international student)
I was not admitted to many colleges last year so I took a gap year and reapplied

My results this time:
To the 6 previous colleges, I was wait listed from 2 and again rejected from the other 4 (even though my stats were at the top 25% in most of them)

And this time I applied to 8 new and I was accepted to 7 (in some with their most prestigious scholarships) and wait listed at Harvard.

You can get your own conclusion but if you have any questions, please feel free to ask me.

@SephardicJewESA so I can assume that applying to the same colleges again is pointless.

@deprage Your stats are too low for the top choices. You are lucky you got into Purdue and UW-M for CS.

@gearmom Everyone get’s into Purdue CS :stuck_out_tongue:

No they don’t. Be happy.