<p>TCU has reported to have 14,000 applicants for 1.700 freshman positions. What about SMU, Tulane or University of Miami?</p>
<p>Tulane last year had 40,000 applicants for 1,500 openings. This year it is projected to be as many as 44,000 applicants for I think the same number of slots. There is a new dorm in progress so the number of slots might be a couple of hundred higher, or maybe that won’t be until the class that enters in 2011.</p>
<p>Last year Tulane sent free application with a fast apply to a lot of students. They seem to do this to get the applications up.</p>
<p>Yes, and Tulane has been doing this since 2002, yet applications only started rising at this amazing pace starting in 2007 (doubling to 34,000, then going to 40,000 and now possibly 44,000). Also, they didn’t do it just to get the applications up, but also to improve the overall quality of the incoming classes, which has also succeeded spectacularly. Average test scores are up over 130 points since then, from the low 1200’s (SAT CR+M) to about 1350-1360. As one would expect, the % of students that gradusted in the top 10% of their class has risen equally dramatically. Isn’t that what a university is supposed to strive for?</p>
<p>I would say Tulane is the easiest of all your schools. I didn’t apply to U Miami, but I applied to the other three. TCU accepted me, SMU put me on their waitlist, and Tulane rejected me. Judging from my friends that have applied to U Miami I would put the selectivity up there with Tulane.</p>
<p>All these schools are great! But all kind of different. Miami and TCU have big sports programs, lots of school spirit, kids wearing school colors.</p>
<p>My son was recently admitted to Tulane. We visited in the summer and we were led to believe that they were going to have a smaller 2015 class as they over admitted last year. Thought they said ~ 1,500.</p>
<p>Actually 1500 is the target most years. Because they got 1630 enrolling fall 2010, they are targeting 1400 this year. Tough year to get into Tulane.</p>
<p>How many are in the freshman classes of SMU and TCU?</p>
<p>SMU Size</p>
<p>Total undergrads: 6,228
First-time degree-seeking freshmen: 1,329</p>
<p>TCU Size </p>
<p>Total undergrads: 7,640
First-time degree-seeking freshmen: 1,823</p>
<p>Remember though that number of applications does not necessarily equate to acceptance rate. Many schools that receive a large number of applicants end up with a very low yield rate (students who actually end up there). Just think through the process where you fit best… not necessarily the school that is considered “best.”</p>
<p>For those of you that have been accepted to both TCU and SMU for engineering, which school are you going to choose in the end?</p>
<p>et al is latin for ‘and others’ …it’s not an abbreviation and you don’t need to add periods.</p>
<p>Hello. Here is a comparison of the costs between TCU and SMU.</p>
<p>SMU Tuition 33,040, Avg Room 8,090, Board 4,564, General Student Fees 4,190 or 49,884.</p>
<p>TCU Tuition 30,090, Avg Room 6,300, Board 3,710, Fees 180 or 40,280.</p>
<p>I’m not sure what the general student fees are for SMU but it is required. </p>
<p>Does anyone know why the fees differ between these schools?</p>
<p>“TCU has reported to have 14,000 applicants for 1.700 freshman positions. What about SMU, Tulane or University of Miami?”</p>
<p>This CAN’T be true! If it were the acceptance rate would be 8%…</p>
<p>It can be true because acceptances always far exceed matriculations. They could accept, say, 8500 students to get a class of 1700.</p>
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<p>As implied above, you are confusing acceptance rate with yield. All schools accept more than they end up getting, even Harvard. In Harvard’s case their yield is about 87% or something like that, so they only admit a small number more than their desired class size. For most schools, say like Vanderbilt, their yield is probably about 1/3, so for a class of 1,500 they would admit about 4,500 out of maybe 18,000 applications knowing that about 1,500 will enroll. If they have a weird year and get a higher yield, they have a big class and can have dorm crowding problems. If it is a poor year and the yield is like 25%, they will have a small class and revenue will suffer. Frankly I don’t know how these schools get so close to the mark they desire so often, but they do. Of course the more desirable the school, the easier it is because they can use the waitlist.</p>
<p>Exactly. TCU’s acceptance rate last year was 59% and SMU’s was 53%. Tulane and University of Miami both had a 44% acceptance rate. Remember, it is a marketing and a numbers game. The more schools advertise, the more kids apply. The more kids apply the lower the acceptance rate so the school looks “more selective.” SMU and TCU have done an awesome advertising and PR job this year. Additionally the Rose Bowl was one monster advertisement for TCU. My bet is that TCU will have a lot more applicants this year making Fall 2011 the most selective year in their history.</p>
<p>Not sure where you are getting your numbers, Rice1961, but the Tulane acceptance rate was about 25%. They had 44,000 applications, took about 10,750 and enrolled 1680, which “melted” to 1630 by move-in. Still 130 more than they wanted, so they are trying to limit this year’s class to 1400.</p>
<p>Let’s list the pros and cons between SMU and TCU:</p>
<p>SMU
Beautiful Campus
More Prestigious School - Ranked 52 Overall
Much harder to get into than TCU
Has community housing (engineering dorm, honors dorm, etc.)
Better Food than TCU
Friendly - same as TCU (not better)
Campus is prettier than TCU
Has an eng school and more eng majors to choose from
Bush school - Presidential Library (very republican and conservative)
Has more diversity than TCU
Excellent alumni connections for job placement
Almost 100% of the 2010 engineer grads found jobs immediately
Has a 5 year undergrad and masters program (engineering)
Has 6,172 students - smaller class sizes - smaller and better than TCU
2010 stats - SAT Reading 560-660
2010 stats - SAT Math 590-680
2010 stats - SAT Writing 560-660
2010 stats - ACT 25-30
% Graduated in top 25% - 73%
Male/Female ratio 47/53
Frat/Sorority - Do not have to be a part of to fit in
School is very hard academically.</p>
<p>TCU
Nicer facilities/dorms than SMU
Ranked overall - 99
Friendly campus - same as SMU
Has only two eng majors and doesn’t have an eng school like SMU
Most of the students are from Texas (very friendly!)
Does this have community housing?
Larger campus
Has over 7K students - bigger than SMU which is a con. Larger school means larger class sizes.
Cheaper than SMU (about $10K less per year)
2010 stats - SAT Reading 520-630
2010 stats - SAT Math 540-640
2010 stats - SAT Writing 530-640
2010 stats - ACT 23-28
% Graduated in top 25% - 63%
Male/Female ratio 41/59
Frat or Sorority - if you aren’t in one it is hard to fit in</p>