but if you ask the teacher if they can write an excellent recommendation, why would they try to snub you?
You would be surprised. They won't "snub you," but they will just be honest. I'm guessing you have not applied to college yet? If so, on the teacher recommendation forms teachers are supposed to judge you on various criteria. They'll be asked to judge you on something like "leadership" with the following rankings, "below average, average, good, very good, excellent, outstanding, best in career." Just to let you know, teachers you think like you are not going to mark excellent, outstanding, and best in career unless they actually mean it.</p>
And even if they write something negative about you, why would it be the end of the world? I think an honest recommendation that fully covers everything including some not-so-excellent parts is more valid and better than a recommendation that is clearly generic and template-ish but with higher checkmarks
I'm not saying I disagree with this. In fact this is essentially what I said in my previous post.</p>