Teaching not as fun as it used to be

<p><a href=“http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=2/21/2007&id=19416[/url]”>http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&date=2/21/2007&id=19416&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Ah. This is a case of teacher-bashing with a vengeance. Can it be blamed on teachers’ unions? on incompetent teachers with tenure?</p>

<p>“bashing” as in cell phone, I presume.</p>

<p>Just another example of the unpaid Hazard Pay encountered by teachers daily in the Publics. Some of the 1st-grade girls I encounter are equally capable of such bashing, btw, & have done so – although thankfully never to me personally. In other countries they would be in juvenile detention facilities, and/or suspended or expelled & readmitted only with contingencies. But, you know, in the U.S. public education system it’s important to be “sensitive.” (That would be to the students only & parents only, definitely not to the teachers, who should accept such behavior in the spirit of sacrifice & public service.) <em>cough</em></p>

<p>And these hazards are encountered in Public schools because the schools cannot expel students–unlike private schools.</p>

<p>indeed, marite.</p>

<p>The article brought back memories of when I was teaching HS in a very low-income area. One teacher was shot through the neck (survived); another was thrown out the classroom window. I had a student place a knife to my throat, I had a heroin addict who used my classroom to sleep, and I don’t even remember some of the other incidents. We had several shootings, any one of which would be national news in this era. As I said in a long-ago post, at the end of the first year, I was made the math department chairman because I had more seniority than any other math teacher.</p>

<p>^^ wow</p>

<p>I thought public schools could expel students. A girl at my middle school was expelled for bringing a knife to school. And a few guys who came to school on drugs were expelled.</p>

<p>Were they really expelled, or did the school just tell us that?</p>

<p>Usually, what happens is that the student is taught off-site but the district is still responsible for the student’s education.</p>

<p>I think this thread needs to be merged with the one on the PF about Steve Jobs’ union-bashing.</p>

<p>I’m glad you asked your question, Christalena, because those of us discussing educational reform on another forum have neglected to mention an important aspect to Publics. (Maybe not true in every State? True in mine.)</p>

<p>A major reason for not expelling clear & proven (documented, reported, rap sheet, LOL) students is because Average Daily Attendance is still linked to funding for each particular school. What a heck of a reason to tolerate violence, crime, intimidation, & psychotic behavior. The public schools in some states are bleeding from every artery – losing students for 2 reasons: attrition due to poor quality & environments such as described, and declining K-12 population. There is some stability in the latter, provided by influx of immigrants, both legal & illegal, and migration by those seeking a high school year of residency to qualify in-State for public U. But the reality is that the district and the State will close schools with not enough attendance due to any factor (including expulsions), and will additionally close schools due to the inevitable annual “budget cuts.”</p>

<p>We cross-posted, marite. I was thinking the same as I wrote mine, regarding merging threads.</p>

<p>But, (at least in California) the state average daily attendance is collected only per district and not per school - my school district, for example, wasn’t shy at all about sending people to the designated “alternative” high school.</p>