<p>i never was much of a poet</p>
<p>How could I have never heard of Deep Springs College!? It sounds amazing! Like TASP but as a college. Without a doubt this is going on my “places to apply to” list. I haven’t even gotten into a program as selective as TASP, yet I’m talking about a college even more selective!
I hope the man’s man thing isn’t required, elmo. Like shuffle said, i’ve got no problem working with my hands, I actually love to work outside.</p>
<p>^^man’s man thing? huh?</p>
<p>i think Deep Springs was actually a seminar host for TASP in the past years</p>
<p>Donny! Huzzah! If no one’s disappeared, that means we have about enough people to get a rollicking debate going!</p>
<p>How about this:
<a href=“http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm[/url]”>http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm</a></p>
<p>To what extent do you believe that the post 9/11 government is or behaves like a fascist government?</p>
<p>nice website…^^</p>
<p>you already know what i feel about Iraq (stupid move), but i don’t mind waiting an extra 30 minutes for my flight if it means it won’t be driven into a building.</p>
<p>Hey, sorry about not replying, I’ve become engrossed in any info I can find on Deep Springs.</p>
<p>Forgot to answer the question! Sure sounds like a good topic…</p>
<p>i just checked out the website on deep springs. interesting school… i would love the personal attention in discussions and teaching, and the variety of practical skills learned. i’d like to spend more time in a classroom than feeding cows, however</p>
<p>I’d say that on some level, the current government fulfills at least 11-12 of the characteristics. It’s not about waiting in lines, D-Yu, it’s about Guantanamo, the religious right, focusing on terrorists instead of things most harmful to Americans, censorship, etc… 3000 people were killed on 9/11. Heart disease killed about 900,000 in 2004. When Bush opens his mouth, his catch phrase is not “saturated fats,” it’s “terrorists.”</p>
<p>I actually wrote my field conflict essay on The War on Terrorism. I outlined how it’s not a “war” and how it can never succeed, kind of like the War on Drugs.
America isn’t fascist, but we aren’t the country that the constitution says we are supposed to be. Just look at congress. Most congressmen don’t even read the bills the vote for, they just trust their underlings to tell them what it’s about. Also, laws aren’t passed in accordance with the Constitution but by what is needed at the moment, even if it goes against the Constitution. An example is the Patriot Act, which clearly goes against the constitution but was “needed” because of current events.
The constitution isn’t a piece of paper that you follow when you feel like it ,but rather, it’s a a binding contract that all politicians are meant to follow above all other commitments(personal beliefs, current events, money, etc.)</p>
<p>sorry, was at lunch earlier. anyways, i don’t even wanna think about the political world at D.C. politicians bullying small-time representative into voting their bills, etc. since when do you hear anyone talking about the relevance of a new law to the Constitution?</p>
<p>for them the constitution is nothing but a historical document that they can visit in a museum.</p>
<p>and next to columbia getting onto one of the telluride houses, at umich or cornell, would be ideal.</p>
<p>The problem with politics in general is the lack of connection between the politicians that “represent” the people and the people themselves. Really, I think America should have never extended beyond the Appalachian Mountains so that we would remain a cohesive, manageable state.</p>
<p>oh hudson, that may be true but we have. and so we have to focus on figuring out a way to proceed as we are. should have’s wont do anything now.</p>
<p>and deep springs requires manual labor? i know it is an all male college.</p>
<p>and we’re the ones who actually vote those people in…</p>
<p>3 main causes of corruption
- greed (for power or money)</p>
<ol>
<li><p>dishonesty and deception (hiding something for “national security” sake, hell, you wouldn’t be there if it weren’t for us. tell us goddamn it.)</p></li>
<li><p>weak people who just accept things (they’ll walk over you only if you allow them to)</p></li>
</ol>
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<p>yeah, this thread’s starting to pick up some steam. i wonder where fridge is… i’m guessing the Ukraine</p>
<p>i didnt vote any of these people in…yet. hehe im only 17</p>
<p>The philosophy of direct interaction between the People’s Representatives and the People is what drives me towards state’s rights.
Also, this idea pushes me away from socialism. It would be interesting to see how socialism worked on the small scale, i.e. a town.</p>
<p>Yep, mls. Deep Springs requires all students to work, usually several hours a day.</p>
<p>wow bummer. l.l. nunn you were a funny man.</p>
<p>isnt that what those communes are about. everyone works to a goal.
i think on a town it could happen. it is really down to earth with everyone knowing everyone else so i think the corruption factor would have a hard time making it through.</p>
<p>like i think the problem that faces socialism, like with most any other government facing corruption, is that the area they control gets to big the oppurtunity to screw someone over and not get caught becomes more likely. like a communistic farm would probably work. but then again it could all end up like the crucible, with even the few given power running awry and forced polarization ruining everything.</p>
<p>^^ that or make stupidity, dishonesty (not perjury), and lack of common sense a legal crime :)</p>
<p>o i’d be in jail for life for two out of the three.lol.</p>
<p>In New York, as I’ve said before, states rights kind of break down. You’ve got NYC and farmland, basically, and they resent each other. Each thinks that all their tax money is going to the other.</p>
<p>The politicians would pay attention if more people gave a crap. Why do lobbyists and special interest groups have such sway? They have the money, and the majority doesn’t care enough to vote for what they want, not what the logging industry or the oil industry wants.</p>