Telluride Association Summer Program ( TASP ) 2008

<p>wink: i take no offense, im enjoying discussion actually. i dont entirely disagree with you.</p>

<p>disney: ok yeah it does.</p>

<p>It’s shorter than saying someone-who-doesn’t-believe-in-a-supreme-higher-being, don’t-hold-it-against-him-crazy-religious-America.</p>

<p>touche Earilmadith</p>

<p>I do so love discussions like these. I think I always refresh at the wrong time, though. There’ll be three responses piled up and mine will be totally irrelevant by the time I post it.</p>

<p>I don’t believe in a supreme higher being or a God, but I still have a religion (Jainism – which specifically states that there is no God). Would that make me a theist or an atheist?</p>

<p>hudson (if directed at me): how strict i am really depends on the person asking the question i guess. but i guess i pretty straight forward cept on the gay marriage thing (ive sat through the “adam and eve not adam and steve” sermon but i personally dont agree). i was born into it but as ive gotten older ive departed from some things and kept others.</p>

<p>Atheist, I think. Isn’t it more of a cultural sect, then, not a religion?</p>

<p>Earilmadith: I completely feel the same way! I’ll take 2 minutes to post a reply and there will already be several stacked up!</p>

<p>Edit: In reply to your second question, I’ve always thought it was a religion because it does have a “heaven” analogy (Moksha), but it is very complicated and very different from the traditional idea of Heaven. Most sources I’ve checked consider Jainism a religion, but I may have to reevaluate that…</p>

<p>I don’t know Jainism, but it doesn’t believe in a god/higher force, it’s not really religion right?</p>

<p>An atheist. Atheism is about God/higher powers, not religion (at least in its etymological roots)</p>

<p>i’m supposedly Hindu
note the supposedly
I’d say I’m somewhere between athiest and agnostic</p>

<p>i think it can still be a religion even if they dont have a god. and i am also Jainism underinformed (if its a word) but dont sit around and try and define yourself wink.</p>

<p>So, is Confucianism a religion? You could say no, because it allows other religions to be practiced simultaneously. If Jainism says there’s no god, it kind of precludes other religions… Hmm.</p>

<p>I have to scamper off to dinner and get some food that’s not for thought. I’ll check in later.</p>

<p>So it <em>is</em> possible to be an atheist but religious at the same time. Interesting…</p>

<p>It’s the whole picking and choosing certain aspects of religions that I think about. I left my religion because I had to pick and choose to much for it to be sane to call myself a member. If you are picking and choosing, shouldn’t you look for a religion that fits your beliefs perfectly, and If no such one exists, create your own religion.</p>

<p>Winkism!</p>

<p>The rules:

  1. Wink will determine your fate based on whether or not she likes you. If she does, you will move on to the afterlife. If she doesn’t, a crocodile will eat your heart.
  2. No hitting, no stealing, no being mean, etc.
  3. Uh…that’s enough rules.</p>

<p>Any followers?</p>

<p>hudson: that is something to think about. but most of the things i dont agree with i simply chalk up to being outdated. (ideally my pastor would like girls to not wear pants : ? and stuff like that). and im pretty sure there isnt a religion that fits me perfectly, but at the same time i feel like it is a good enough match. all else fails id call myself an agnostic with church going tendencies.</p>

<p>You got me with the croc</p>

<p>Is that last sentence a Vonnegut quote, panicpower?</p>

<p>crocs in michigan??</p>

<p>and i dont think it is hudson.lol.</p>