Tennessee GOP stoops to attacking and distorting Michelle Obama

[spideygirl]

<p>LAXATTACK: " like how it’s “crazy” to think that the MO comment was directed towards Clinton yet 100% OK to think that the Bush comment was directed towards Obama."</p>

<p>So good it should be repeated.</p>

<p>I am confident as well that the Bush comment was also aimed directly at Obama. Direct hit.</p>

<p>Let’s get real about how politics works. I think we should think critically, whether it is the candidate we favor or not.</p>

<p>I don’t think it benefits our country when voters act like lemmings.</p>

[poetsheart]

<p>Oh, so you “had to have been there”, huh, Spidey? Well, since you were—Uh, I mean, know someone who knew someone who read it in a blog—why don’t you prove that Michele Obama’s words were a slam against Hillary Clinton? Anything objective and rational will do—an actual video link—you, know—so we can all witness this irrefutable “body language and tone of speech” would be a good start. That we should “take your word for it” against the actual words that came out of Michele Obama’s mouth is just not gonna cut it.</p>

[kluge]

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Then you are not a part of the reaction described by others who were there. Not surprising, since you are obviously a fan.

Who described that reaction, Spideygirl? This is the second time you’ve claimed to report how the people in Atlantic, Iowa, responded to Michelle Obama’s comments. I’ve found a clip of her comments including the “take care of your own house” remark. I don’t see any such “response.” Nor is there any suggestion of that in any of the contemporary reports. In short - somebody just made that up. Probably not you, but you might do well to go back and try to figure out who sold that factoid to you. Anyway, here’s Michelle Obama: [Video</a> - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com](<a href=“Video News - CNN”>Video News - CNN) Oooh! Obama values family! Barack and Michelle put their children first! They even schedule their campaign activities around their children! Obviously code-speak for *“Hillary can’t keep her man happy”<a href=“or%20whatever%20the%20%22secret%22%20message%20is%20that%20you%20read%20into%20it.”>/I</a> The contemporary report from CNN is interesting as well:

The comments went largely unnoticed until an article in Tuesday morning’s Chicago Sun Times suggested the statement was an indirect swipe against the Clintons, whose previous marital problems have been well documented.*<br>
The accusation immediately got top billing on The Drudge Report, a conservative Web site, and Obama himself was asked about the comments in a conference call earlier Tuesday. The Illinois senator emphatically denied the comments were aimed at his rival and added, “There was no reference beyond her point that we have had an administration that talks a lot about family values but doesn’t follow through.” He also noted that his wife often speaks about children and families in her campaign remarks.

[url=<a href=“http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/category/michelle-obama/]CNN”>http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/category/michelle-obama/]CNN</a> Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Michelle Obama « - Blogs from CNN.com<a href=“*The%20actual%20phrase%20used%20in%20that%20paper%20was” title=“it could be interpreted as a swipe at the Clintons.”>/url</a></p>

<p>So if Michelle Obama ever says anything positive about her family, about her husband, about her husband and her kids, it’s a partisan “swipe” at someone? She can’t say anything positive about her and her husband’s family values? </p>

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I don’t think it benefits our country when voters act like lemmings.

Well, see? We agree on something! (Of course, lemmings don’t actually act that way, that’s another media driven myth, but that’s another story…)</p>

[bz2010]

<p>One of the most amazing phenomena I have witnessed on this forum is the un-objectivity displayed by certain candidates’ supporters.</p>

<p>I guess it’s true everywhere, but it really seems like many posters are so in the corner of their particular candidate that they just excuse the comments & actions, histories, record (or lack thereof) and countless other deficiencies or undesireable attributes of the candidate, spouse, surrogates, etc.</p>

<p>It leads one to believe that the candidates must capture the attention & support of voters early on in the campaign. Does anyone EVER switch sides? Perhaps it has become more apparent during this election cycle given that the two dems have stayed in the race so long.</p>

<p>It’s amazing how much people are willing to overlook in their own candidate and how much they find objectionable in “the other guy/gal”.</p>

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<p>And MY “partisan” comment is: I really hope the Obama supporters take off their rose-colored glasses before the GE. The guy has NO experience and has not even clearly defined what he stands for (except that wearing a flag lapel pin isn’t “true patriotism” then guess what, he starts wearing one after that!). </p>

<p>I’m a conservative, but I try to consider all the cadidates objectively - as if I’m interviewing an applicant for hiring. McCain is just flat-out most qualified. Are people so blinded by partisanship that they can’t see that?</p>

[Hindoo]

<p>More qualified at what? Keeping us in an unjust war for 100 years? Stacking the Supreme Court with right-wing idealogues?</p>

[kluge]

<p>bz2010, ever hear of the “Peter Principle?” McCain is experienced at being wrong about invading Iraq. Is that the kind of experience you value? He’s been in the Senate for a real, real long time. Okay. Maybe he’s a competent senator. But seriously - what about McCain makes you think he’d be any better for America than the last eight years have been? What would he do differently than what George Bush has done? There’s an “objective” question for you.</p>

[sunnymamere]

<p>He will go to the bathroom more. At his age, he is sure to have an enlarged prostate.</p>

[Hindoo]

<p>What you say is true, sunnymamere.</p>

[1of42]

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@bz2010

One of the most amazing phenomena I have witnessed on this forum is the un-objectivity displayed by certain candidates’ supporters.

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<p>With all due respect, as the person who for something like 2 straight months responded to essentially every political thread with some variation on “McCain is the best possible candidate because he’s honorable and amazing and smart and experienced and a straight shooter and knows what we need and… and… etc. etc.”, I think you might be the last person who should be condemning subjectivity on the part of any candidate’s supporters.</p>

[simba]

<p>^ you done with your finals?</p>

[bulletandpima]

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What would he do differently than what George Bush has done?

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<p>He would have fired Rummy a year earlier…remember the call for Rummys head started with McCain.</p>

<p>Bush’s problem is he listened too much to advisors and led too little! McCain is known to cross aisles. He has a complete understanding of the military and I give him credit for even now going against the party and the military by saying No waterboarding. </p>

<p>It’s interesting the dems say he is a too much like Bush—the republican and republicans say he is a RINO. </p>

<p>Look at McCain’s voting record he has bills co-sponsored with dems, he has voted against tax cuts b/c it wasn’t tied to reduction in spending.</p>

<p>The main reason I like him is because he believes the more govt is involved the more likely they will screw it up, then they have to go back and fix what they screwed up, which causes another problem, and the cycle continues. McCain believes in less govt and that is what I want…I do not want some law dictating my healthcare.</p>

<p>B4 you say well McCain as a sen. was one that screwed it up, remember this is also the guy who has never taken earmarks and tried to control spending. And if you give that credit to the senate and congress, then how did Bush screw it up, since you are now saying they screwed it up and not Bush. Also I am still waiting to see what the dem controlled capitol has done over the past 2 yrs that has made a difference. Geez the mtg world has been in a crisis for over a yr and they still can’t figure out what to do, the illegal immigrant issue has got to be at least 2 yrs old and no answer at that front either!</p>

[simba]

<p>“McCain is experienced at being wrong about invading Iraq”</p>

<p>It is easy to thump your chest when you are outside. If he was inside he would have voted ‘present’.</p>

<p>Remember 70% of American public brain washed by TV pundits and Bush administration believed there were WMDs and were in support of invasion.</p>

[bz2010]

<p>Hey 1of42 - I never said I wasn’t guilty of supporting my candidate wholeheartedly. Once I made up my mind, I became pretty committed to his success. But at the same time, IF Obama or Hillary had convinced me in any way that s/he were the best candidate, I would’ve been open to change.</p>

<p>I merely made an observation in my last post - as a poster on this forum, I’m subject to the same observation.</p>

[kluge]

<p>Uh, Simba? If everyone was brainwashed into thinking that there were WMD’s in Iraq why wasn’t Obama? </p>

<p>(And by the way, you just embarrass yourself when you repeat your snippy “voted present” line over and over in the view of anyone who bothered to actually look into the question.) [Fact</a> Check: Obama’s ‘present’ votes - Boston.com](<a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/24/fact_check_obamas_present_votes/]Fact”>http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/24/fact_check_obamas_present_votes/)</p>

[ilsa_belter]

<p>This is the best article yet I’ve seen summing up Obama.</p>

<p>Quote- “He struck me than as a vacuous opportunist, a good performer with an ear for how to make white liberals like him.”</p>

<p>Quote- “Paul Krugman noted months ago that Obamaistas display a cultish quality in the sense that they treat others’ criticism or failure to support their icon as a character flaw or sin.”</p>

<p>Quote- “Obama’s style of being all things to all people threatens to melt under the inescapable spotlight of a national campaign against a Repbulican.” </p>

<p>Well worth reading.</p>

<p><a href=“Http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508[/url]”>Http://www.progressive.org/mag_reed0508&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[kluge]

<p>Other than the vacuous, “neener-neener” parts which did you find most worth reading,

he actually goes beyond Clinton and rehearses the scurrilous and ridiculous sort of narrative Bill Cosby has made infamous.

or

no politician in this system is likely to be a person you’d want for your sister-in-law or brother-in-law. And, as many Progressive readers may know, I’m hardly a Clinton fan. I’m on record in last November’s issue as saying that I’d rather sit out the election entirely than vote for either her or Obama.

or

the middle-aged white woman’s report of not having paid much attention to Obama early on, but having been won over by the enthusiasm and energy of their adolescent or twenty-something daughters. (A colleague recently reported having heard this narrative from a friend, citing the latter’s conversion at the hands of her eighteen year old. I observed that three short years ago the daughter was likely acting the same way about Britney Spears.)

My personal opinion? It’s a snotty, self-indulgent, self-important, self aggrandizing spite frenzy. Parent2noles does a better job of criticizing Obama.</p>

[ilsa_belter]

<p>Is P2N a highly respected AA Professor of Political Science at Penn like Reed?</p>

<p>Maybe you’re one of those Obamaistas Krugman refers to?</p>

<p>I’m not getting why any criticism of BO appears to have to be ridiculed or attempted to be shut down i n these parts.</p>

<p>Adios.</p>

[1of42]

<p>simba: I am indeed and am very happy to be done. ;)</p>

[razorsharp]

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Remember 70% of American public brain washed by TV pundits and Bush administration believed there were WMDs and were in support of invasion.

No, Simba, they were brainwashed by Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Madelyn Albright, George Tenant, John Kerry and countless other Democrats who told me that WMD existed in Iraq. Are you incapable of holding Democrats accountable?</p>

[kluge]

<p>Quick question, Razorsharp – have the Republicans ever taken responsibility for anything?</p>