Tesla 3

Yes, Tesla M3 has significant regen.

No worries about the braking issue: Read this: https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/22/17381210/tesla-model-3-consumer-reports-braking-musk

“Everything from adjusting the sideview mirrors to the airflow of the heating and air conditioning is controlled through the touchscreen, a fact the CR testers found distracting and dangerous.”

Really, CR? You can do better than that, Every kid who has taken a DL test knows - adjust your mirrors prior to starting your engine. No one, no one needs to mess with mirrors while driving. And I have never seen temperature controls that have not been located on the central console… it does not matter if one is poking at a screen or pushing a few buttons.

I was a first day in line reservation holder in California and got my 3 about a month ago. I’ve been really happy with it so far. It’s been on one substantial road trip to Lake Tahoe and it was a pleasure driving it on the mountain roads. I used the supercharger on that trip, but beyond that, I’ve charged at home using a NEMA 14-50 circuit installed for that purpose. It was awesome to say goodbye to gas stations!

There was a bit of a learning curve to get familiar with the voice and touchscreen commands, but I’ve got it down now.

I have not noticed any braking issues, but I’m a pretty conservative driver. That said, I was happy to read that there will soon be a software update to address the issue that CR cited.

It’s still strange to open and start my car with a phone app…very happy to leave a big old key ring at home!

The old style HVAC controls with the three pointer dials (example: https://www.toyota.com/yarisia/photo-gallery/interior/1 ) are easy to use by feel – you can tell what the current setting is, and change it to a new desired setting, without having to look at them. Some of the more “upscale” HVAC controls, whether buttons (example: https://www.toyota.com/avalon/photo-gallery/interior/2 ) or touch screen, require looking at them to determine current setting and/or change to a new setting.

Come on, UCB. You can do better than that. :slight_smile: What kind of car maker actually produces new models with those round dials?! :slight_smile: The last rental Hyundai I drove had a temperature control system that was much less intuitive than our X’s touch screen. As I said, CR needs to go back to made in 'Murcia fridges… :slight_smile:

I give an example right in reply #44. The Mazda-made Toyota Yaris iA has the three pointer dials.

Just because some of the various other designs for car HVAC controls are seen as “upscale” does not make them better. Indeed, many of the other designs for car HVAC controls are worse.

Why would you object to car HVAC controls that can be completely operated by feel without looking at them?

No, I do not object to that. I object to CR selective singling out of a feature that is not unique to one model and blowing it out of proportion. :slight_smile: Smells like CR is going back to those “good old days,” lol.

The good old days like when CR was so eager to encourage people to buy the model S that they gave it an impossibly perfect score and ignored some issues that they saw and had dinged other car models for?

I like the concept that an independent organization would review expensive items like cars and give unbiased commentary, but CR has shown that it’s not unbiased and has a clear agenda to support certain causes. Realistic reviews that point out safety flaws - and having to use a touch screen and then click through several layers of menu options to change features that are commonly accessed while driving or having braking distance exceed norms are definitely safety flaws - are reasonable and welcome. CR points out those exact issues on other cars and shouldn’t ignore them simply because this car advances their agenda.

I am not looking for glowing reports, which are always suspicious, but things like mirrors that can’t be adjusted with a physical button or touch screen controls being floated as major flaws specific to this model only raise suspicion. In the past, CR used some questionable testing methodology and even misrepresented their test results. I don’t subscribe to their service, but for all of you who do, hope they sent you an apology for selling your personal data to third parties without your consent.

So, back to the Model 3, I would prefer to have easier (one step) controls to do things like adjust the mirrors, though they say that you “set them and forget them” or use the camera on your monitor to have a more panoramic view (but that seems weird when driving, though haven’t tried it yet). Any suggestion for what home charger to get to install on the wall?

Have an electrician install a 240V outlet, then get and plug in a charger that matches the car. The one included with the car may be suitable.

Jym, we charge our 100D X from… wait for it… a standard 110v wall outlet. It charges the battery at about 3 miles per hour, plenty for Mr. to drive to work and back on one charge. Look for recommendations on Tesla site for charging rates. Our plans are to install a 220V line… we just need to wait for fall to dig the trench for it after my flowers finished blooming. :slight_smile:

And very true about rear view mirror. I never bother with ours. The back camera does a much better job, and we got used to the panoramic view during the test drive. The side mirrors and the seats are just like in your and ours old RX - the car “remembers” your preference.

I converted my 30 amp dryer outlet into a NEMA 14-50 outlet in anticipation of getting the Model 3. (I have a gas dryer). Keep in mind one thing though - many houses are equipped with only a 100-125 amp circuit breaker (like mine). The 50 amp outlet is going to cause a major electrical drain, especially if you have lots of other electrical needs. In many cases, to upgrade to 200 amp or higher requires lots of trenching work if the wires are buried under neath the ground. That will cost a lot of money.

Well, my bus drove next to and just passed a white 3 on I5 South. :slight_smile: I got a good view of its insides, and IMO the center screen is better positioned than the screen in our X. Now I am dying to find out what was that unmarked, unusual dirt color X doing driving behind it… :slight_smile:

Our contractor guy (who has an engineering degree from the flagship tech school here) was by yesterday. He isn’t worried about the power need or installation (and on the other side of the wall in the garage is the laundry room with the gas dryer). I believe the car comes with charger cables (if thats the right term) so I guess I could just have a plug installed, but I was considering buying the wall charger from Tesla. It was actually cheaper than the firefly one that was recommended on some websites. I am looking at the 40 amp. Tesla said I don’t need 50. Most of the driving is short distances. Bummer is that 2 friends offered the referral for the free supercharging, but the free supercharging isn’t available for the model 3 :frowning:

The device that plugs into an electrical outlet on one end and the car on the other end is called electric vehicle service equipment (EVSE).

EVSE come in various voltage and current capabilities, and varying plugs for each end. On the car side, the available plugs are Tesla, SAE, and CHAdeMO. Obviously, Tesla cars use the Tesla plug.

I know zip about electrical stuff-- is it a 22V or a 240V?

200 amp is the standard here for houses… our previous owners lived large, so we have 400… :smiley: Yes, a 100 amp panel will likely need to be upgraded if that’s all you have.

You will be fine with a wall outlet/adapter plug and 40 amps. Teslas come with a charger cord and a set of adapters. I also recommend reading Tesla message boards - lots of good info there. That is how we found The Law - a front license plate holder that does not require drilling into the front bumper. Sadly, WA requires front plates, and we did not want to take chances… the ticket is more expected than the holder.

I have been reading the forums and am thinking about just having a dedicated 240V NEMA 14-50V outlet installed and then buying a second Tesla charging bundle https://shop.tesla.com/us/en/product/vehicle-accessories/model-s_x_3-gen-2-mobile-connector-bundle.html like the one that comes with the car. and the dock for the wall https://shop.tesla.com/us/en/product/vehicle-accessories/model-s_x_3-cable-organizer.html That saves some $. Thoughts?