Texas Tech police officer shot and killed

http://m.kcbd.com/kcbd/db_331352/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=IvergnT7

Suspect is a student.

Very sad…it is all over the local news. Suspect in custody. Campus is off lock down now.

Yep it appears campus police went to a dorm room to do a welfare check. They found drugs in the room and brought the guy in for questioning. He then pulls a gun in the police station and shoots the officer in the head. Very tragic event on Texas Tech campus tonight. Prayers out to the officer and his family.

Just awful. Why does a college freshman have a gun in his dorm room? And, no, I’m not expecting an answer to that question. Nothing will change.

Yes, why did he have a gun in his dorm.

Killing a cop…very sad. This is Texas…they’ll go for the death penalty.

Local news reports the officer’s gun was in his holster, suspect took officer’s body cam after he shot him, gun found near suspect matched the shells found by deceased officer. Suspect admitted it to arrested officers. …
Suspect had the gun illegally on campus.

Our friend’s son was on lockdown in the library for awhile and scared. Prayers to the families involved.

Whoever requested the welfare check on the suspect must be feeling really awful.

According to reports, the gun belonged to the student.
While there’s no indication yet of whether the student had purchased the gun legally, students in Texas are allowed to carry guns on campus since a “campus carry” law went into effect August, 2016.

The law does require that students be 21 or over to have a carry permit, so it does not appear the shooter (who is 19) had a permit to carry the gun on campus. That said, campus carry laws make it much harder for law enforcement to determine who should or should not be allowed to carry a firearm.

Texas is one of just eight US states where campus carry is allowed statewide, regardless of whether the college or university approves of it. Several other states permit it, but allow schools to place limits in terms of where the guns can be carried.

Campus carry not only makes the campus environment more dangerous, it has an economic impact. The University of Kansas spent $1mm this year on metal detectors and increased security at the football stadium and basketball arena, after a campus carry law was passed there.

“That said, campus carry laws make it much harder for law enforcement to determine who should or should not be allowed to carry a firearm.”

How is that? You have to be over 21 and have a carry permit to carry on campus in Texas. That’s pretty cut and dried. This kid had the gun on campus illegally.

“Campus carry not only makes the campus environment more dangerous” How so? We’ve now had a few years of campus carry - what incidents can be traced to legally permitted students who carry on campus?

Look I’m not trying to turn this into a political debate, but its pretty obvious you showed up here with an agenda and you’re not about to let a good tragedy go to waste - even if it has nothing to do with your cause.

Gee, where was the good guy with a gun to stop this? Hmmm.

Uh, he’s now at the funeral home while his family makes plans for his burial. You have any other funny quips to add?

I work with people in the law enforcement community. In general, they do not wish to have more citizens armed, particularly younger people such as students. I’m sure there are exceptions, but for the most part, law enforcement finds it more challenging when they enter a hostile situation to see multiple people with firearms and having to figure out which among them are the “good guys”. And, from personal experience, I spent my college years as a bartender and broke up my share of fights. Kids make mistakes and act out. It happens. Not once in four years did I ever think “this situation would work out better if only some of the students were armed”. Here’s one of many articles I’ve read that shows police reaction to looser gun policies: https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/04/us/as-states-expand-gun-rights-police-join-opposition.html?_r=0

@maroon79, it should be obvious what my comment meant, and that it didn’t mean police. Come on, now.

It sounds like sloppy police work: they didn’t search him for a gun when he was arrested and he wasn’t in handcuffs during processing. However, it’s possible some of the virulent, anti-police antics from some groups is diminishing respect for the police. How did he get the gun and ammo? He wasn’t 21.

The fact that every time somebody is killed with a firearm a certain type of person immediately starts pushing for more gun control is really distasteful. This is especially true where as here and in virtually all such situations no gun control laws short of outright confiscation would matter.

We don’t know what or where exactly his motivations came from. I don’t think we can link him/his thinking to those groups so quickly. If you think so please share why you do so.

@Ohiodad51 -How is that distasteful?

@roethlisburger maybe he got the guns and ammo the same place he got the drugs…

http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/news/crime-and-courts/2017-10-10/texas-tech-ids-slain-officer-warrant-details-accused describes the warrant for Hollis Daniels (the suspect).

“However, it’s possible some of the virulent, anti-police antics from some groups is diminishing respect for the police.”

Yeah, maybe he was motivated by dangerous subversives like Black Lives Matter or Mothers Against Purposeless Pistols.