The bad week won't end - more guns

Colleges & Universities University of Chicago
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<p>From the University’s onliine security alert:</p>

<p>[University</a> of Chicago News Office | Campus Crime Update](<a href=“University of Chicago News”>University of Chicago News)</p>

<p>“At 12:49 a.m., Friday, November 23, on Kimbark Avenue near 57th Street, two men were walking when two other men came from behind, displayed handguns, demanded and took the victims’ valuables, and fled. Police are investigating.”</p>

<p>This occurred yesterday during Thanksgiving break. Were the victims students???</p>

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<p>Not as concerned about this one, because it’s more of a routine happening and nobody got hurt. Muggings DO happen.</p>

<p>I’ve been told that the guns are usually toy guns-- if the criminal gets caught, he is in a lot more trouble for using an actual gun, plus the ultimate intent is not to hurt you-- it’s to take your wallet and your valuables.</p>

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<p>except that a student got killed this time</p>

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<p>for the first time in 30 years, yes. but we also don’t know anything about that, and they didn’t even take his wallet. it’s really not that rare for people to get mugged in hyde park.</p>

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<p>yeah, those people were students. i dont think you should get the idea that muggings are commonplace, but it happens and campus doesn’t usually make a big deal about it. however, the recent shooting was rare and a big deal.</p>

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<p>New e-mail (for the curious):</p>

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<p>Muggings may be pretty routine in Hyde Park, but the fact that a pair of male students walking together was targeted on one of the nicest blocks on campus…that’s more troubling to me than the more typical mugging of a lone student at 53rd and Cottage Grove.</p>

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<p>yeah, its odd that two male students were targeted on such a populated street. i wouldn’t be as suprised if the victims had been female. it is unnerving.</p>

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<p>57th is not terribly well populated that late at night, I’ve walked back to Max from 57th and Stony Island along 57th at around 11 or later one time and I don’t remember seeing anyone else on the street all the way back to the dorm.</p>

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<p>I agree that this mugging is far from usual. They were confronted with real guns–not toys–and the guns were actually pushed against their bodies when their money and valuables were demanded. I know one of the guys it happened to.</p>

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<p>well they make “toy” guns to look like real ones, especially bb guns. not saying they weren’t real, just that i don’t find this news THAT surprising. i remember this summer reading the police alerts and someone was stuck up at 57th and university with a “real gun” and apparently the victim turned around and punched the mugger, who then ran away without shooting or taking anything. the point is that muggings happen and the mugger really has nothing to gain by shooting his victim, but a gun does wonders for intimidation.</p>

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<p>“the victim turned around and punched the mugger, who then ran away without shooting or taking anything.”</p>

<p>Because you can never say it too often: Unless you’re Jackie Chan, don’t do this. It doesn’t matter that the mugger has “nothing to gain by shooting his victim.” The typical mugger is young and panicky, and also possibly drunk or high. You should not bet your life that he will weigh his options rationally in a split-second, adrenaline-fueled situation.</p>

<p>It’s smart to fight back if an armed assailant is trying to get you into a vehicle. Otherwise, cooperate and do your best not to scare him.</p>

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<p>Exactly, Hannah.</p>

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<p>From the campus safety alert…
Posted Nov. 27, 2007 at 9:15 a.m.</p>

<p>According to a statement Wednesday from the Chicago Police Department, a 16-year old has been charged with murder in connection with the November 19 death of graduate student Amadou Cisse. He was also charged with attempted armed robbery in connection with Cisse’s death as well as armed robbery in connection with an incident earlier that day in which two women were robbed at 924 E. 57th St. by an individual who said he had a weapon.</p>

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<p>I hope they have the right person - but what a sad was of life - both for (almost) Dr. Cisse and the 16 year old.</p>

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<p>i would certainly never attempt to fight back, im just saying that often times the mugger isnt interested in fighting you. its not too surprising that a 16 year old killed amadou because he probably isnt experienced and made a huge mistake and knew it right away.</p>

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<p>The murder at Chicago was tragic, but people should not over react. This was the first murder in over thirty years at the University affecting a student.The murderer came from over five miles away in a car. This could have happened anywhere. Unfortunately this is the society we live in. I live next to the Yale campus which has had several murders over the years. Students have to use common sense and not walk alone in the early dawn or late at night. Otherwise you are pretty safe. Chicago will probably be one of the safest universities in the country to be at now.</p>