The brain drain - Did your college grad stay in-state?

I was talking with a friend recently about how our kids and some of our mutual friends kids graduated from college and are now working out of state. Not surprisingly, many of them went to college out of state, When my youngest was looking at colleges one of the admissions people mentioned a grant available for STEM majors. It was a pretty good amount but would require the student to stay in state for a certain amount of years after graduation or pay back the grant. My son went OOS for college so I didn’t keep that information but I thought that was a great idea. Even better would be something to lure them back to their home state after graduation - besides Mom’s good cooking, that is! When my son started his senior year at his college in VT, he got a packet from the state with a letter from the governor suggesting he stay there.

So, I was wondering - Is your state doing anything to hang on to it’s college grads? Are your kids working in their home state?

I’m in Ohio. What I hear about is brain drain in terms of Ohio CITIES. So, for instance, many young people leave our city and relocate to better places within Ohio or perhaps outside of Ohio - but the focus being brain drain in our harder hit-economy CITIES.

So on that note, I have had two college grads so far. One yet to start college. Both college grads choose Ohio universities. One graduated in 2011 and has relocated to Columbus (many more opportunities in her field than here in our city). She’s fully happy there. My S graduated from his Ohio university in 2014 and is a first year teacher in the public school system he graduated from. Since he was val at his high school the school system jumped at the opportunity to put “one of our own” back in their school system. I expect he will stay at least for a few years.

My son went to a private instate and then took a job out of state. We are near a large city so he presumably could have waited longer to find something here, but had a good offer and went. My older kids want to experience living in different places and might end up back here, but I’m not counting on it. Honestly, there is no compelling reason to come to or stay in our state right now. It’s in miserable shape.

Mine is leaving the country. She went to a private out of state. Is getting married to a foreigner and moving to his country. She said there is more economic opportunity for both of them elsewhere (both are recent college graduates). She is surviving in the meantime with two part-time jobs as she could not find anything full time. On the other hand, he landed full time employment in his country within 2 weeks of graduating.

My kids (the three oldest) went to instate schools and have all remained in state after school. We encouraged them to find work in other states - so that we could eventually follow them out of our state. We are in a state of incredibly high property taxes so we’d love to retire in another state with lower property taxes. Our youngest will be going to West Point so he will end up out of state but he’ll be moving around so much that we’d be crazy to follow him. :slight_smile:

I found this article about how the state of Maine is investing in it’s in-state grads: http://mdibl.org/in-the-news/maine-program-gets-18-million-to-combat-brain-drain/

Mine left the country. More work in Europe for classical musicians. It’s been 18 months and no return planned in the foreseeable future. I do think that the state of California should build more opera houses to keep the classical singers in state. (:expressionless:

I’m in Michigan. My oldest went to school in this state but left after graduating. First to Texas and now he’s in Pennsylvania. My D went to a private OOS school and stayed in the same city she went to school in.

My D went to school OOS and may start there after graduation as she has connections. She’s bringing her GF home for spring break, though, so we plan to make a real sales pitch for the Great Northwest. Now if only the weather would cooperate we’ll really roll out the red carpet to bait them back here.

I guess that’s the down side of the spread of marriage equality. For a hot minute I was sure they’d have to end up back here. Now I need a new strategy. :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, my youngest is relocating to the Pacific Northwest. He considered staying in Vermont, but the Seattle offer was too good to pass up. We never expected any of our kids to move back to our small town for good, but it would be nice if they had stayed in-state. But looking at this thread, deb922 has a son who is in PA, so maybe we’re just trading them around…

My kids both went to college at a private university 700 miles away, and neither returned home (or, for that matter, to our state). One lives and works where he went to college; the other is in New York City, where, to be fair, she had wanted to live since she was 8. Both would consider moving to our city at this point, but they are both more or less nailed in place for the moment by good jobs and good relationships.

How many of us live where we grew up? In my family, at least, people have moved around, a lot.

I grew up in the bosom of a large extended family in a city in the near-Midwest. My maternal grandmother was one of six siblings who grew up there, and the oldest four of them lived their whole adult lives there, most of the time on the same block, despite the fact that all of them and all of their spouses had gone away somewhere else to college. In my mother’s generation, there were 16 first cousins, 10 of whom grew up in that city, and five of whom settled permanently there – not on the same block, but in the same neighborhood – with one more who lived about an hour away. All but a couple of them had gone away to college, too. Those six first cousins raised 21 kids in or near their city, my generation . . . and of that group, my second cousins and siblings, there are two who live there now as adults. Including one of my sisters, who didn’t return until 12 years after she finished college across the country, and then left again for five years before returning. There were two other second cousins of mine who died, one who always lived there and one who came and went for years, and whose widow and children still live in the area, and another who has also sometimes lived there and sometimes not, and right now it’s not. Still, that’s at most 5/21, and only two of them lived there continuously after college (well, one of them didn’t spend much time in college).

I have more relatives from that quadrant of my family now in New York City, Chicago, L.A., or the Bay Area than I have in my native city, where any kind of family party once meant a minimum of 50+ people. That’s the story of the Rust Belt.

But it’s not just the Rust Belt. My wife’s parents and their siblings all grew up and were educated in New York City, but only two (of six) stayed there as adults, and only one of my wife’s generation in those families lives there now, with one more about 45 minutes north on the Hudson Line. My in-laws made certain their four children went to college within easy driving distance from where they lived (which was in western New England, and easy driving distance included a heck of a lot of fine colleges). Only one of four, however settled as an adult within the easy-drive radius.

Others of my second cousins grew up in more glamorous, vibrant places than I – Washington DC, Berkeley, Philadelphia – and only one of nine lived her adult life mainly where she grew up (but only after a number of years in Ghana and then Wisconsin).

At one point, a couple of decades ago, I had cousins I was fairly close to living in Tokyo, Geneva, Paris, Dar-es-Salaam, Capetown, Jakarta, Stockholm, and a small town outside Fairbanks. None had gone to college close to home. (Things have compressed a bit since – only Stockholm still lives outside the US.)

To be fair, my three cousins who grew up in the San Fernando Valley have barely budged, ever None of them has lived as an adult east of Brentwood, west of Camarillo, or north of either. One started college in Texas, but finished at Pepperdine, one went to UC - Davis, and the other took some classes sometimes at Northridge. Two other, much younger cousins grew up in Pacific Palisades, and they are both back in SoCal after college in the Boston area. So maybe the secret isn’t so much going to college in-state as living in a warm place near some great beaches.

Michigan has been suffering from the Brain Drain of our smartest kids (UMich/Michigan States grads) for years. The only answer to this, I believe, is the revitalization of our cities, which is happening now in Detroit and Grand Rapids. Hopefully, this will slow down the exodus. As long as our legislature doesn’t keep trying to pass repressive laws…but that is another conversation, one that is not allowed here! :smile:

Here in suburban NJ most of the kids in town who come back after college get jobs in NYC and live there also. They don’t want the commute that their parents have!

Both of my California babes are working in our home state. One never left; the other left for eight years (undergrad and grad school) and returned, with luck, for good.

We live in Texas. Son went to Massachusetts for college and is now working in New York.

However, most of the kids he went to high school have stayed here in Texas for college and career.

Both my kids went to school OOS, but both came back and live and work nearby. We are a very place-based family and share an irrational love of the state.

None of my kids chose to go to college in PA, and I seriously doubt any of them will ever live in PA again. I grew up in Ohio, went to college in Ohio, and moved to PA. None of my 5 siblings live in Ohio either. We never made a big deal about our kids staying around. I am happy they are spreading their wings.

Colorado is a nice place to live. Many CO students opt to stay in state. Many OOS students that come here opt to stay.

Having said that, DS is a college senior in Boston, and he recently accepted a job there. But we’ve always known that was a strong possibility .

Four days ago our son moved 600 miles away and his employer approved his working out of his new home. He told me there wasn’t much here, and he has friends living in his new town. I always knew this day would come and I’m glad for him.