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<p>I dunno. Then outside of class you could have like a secret language. In elementary school we had a secret language, I would explain it to you but then you would tell Ms. Donovan and we’d get in trouble for all the mean things we said about her.</p>

<p>har har.</p>

<p>Most of my friends got out of Latin. You only need two years of a language and it is excruciatingly dull. Who would I talk to in Latin? Seriously.</p>

<p>Canada only requires one year of French in high school and that’s it for the foreign language requirement. In the French system, they only require one year of English, but all English universities require four years of English. So, you’re basically stuck with at least two languages for all of high school.</p>

<p>Other nerdy CCers who take Latin.</p>

<p>I used to speak Ubbi Dubbi when I was little. I can still do it, but typing it just looks stupid. Tubypubing ubit lubooks stubupubid. It’s much easier to understand when it’s spoken. It’s from that kids’ show, ZOOM. I always envied those kids.</p>

<p>So is English in a French system school learning to speak English or reading books and writing papers?</p>

<p>The US doesn’t officially require any foreign language courses. They are, however, required for college (2 years), and certain high schools require more. I think almost everyone takes at least one year of Spanish at my school. There are fewer people who continue with the second year of Spanish. By Spanish 3, there are maybe half the original students. In Spanish 4, there are maybe only a quarter of the class enrolled. The problem with schools like mine is that you have to keep taking the class, even if you don’t like the teacher. There is only one Spanish teacher, and only one foreign language. Luckily, he’s a good teacher, but there are some students that stopped taking his class because they don’t like him.</p>

<p>Haha Mike, I doubt they’d have to teach native English speakers how to speak English. That would be dumb. Though I really don’t know for sure, I’d guess that it’s more of the reading books type of English class.</p>

<p>Umm…okay. I posted those in the opposite order. Just an added complaint.</p>

<p>My school requires two years of foreign language, probably 75% take Spanish.</p>

<p>I was always angry at myself because I never got the hang of Ubbi Dubbi. Loved that show.</p>

<p>I think I learned Ubbi Dubbi in five minutes, once I knew the trick, and saw a few shows. You just add “ub” in front of every vowel sound. It’s definitely easier than Latin. It’s even easier than Pig Latin. I’ve found to many irregularities with Pig Latin for it to be useful. How do you say “hour” in Pig Latin? Yeah, that’s what I thought.</p>

<p>Pig Latin is so much easier than ubbi dubbi.</p>

<p>Ubbi Dubbi doesn’t exist in Canada.</p>

<p>And, though not required, English classes in the French system are identical to English classes in the English system. My school’s English classes are tougher than regular ones, even, just because we have the IB. So. Yeah.</p>

<p>English is such an unnecessary class.</p>

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<p>Is that dumb or what? Even my usual hack of just trying again didn’t work.</p>

<p>You can’t teach someone how to be a better writer. You can teach them grammar, or a book, but not how to engage a reader. </p>

<p>Bah.</p>

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<p>I guess I’ll try the Google search instead.</p>

<p>i beg to differ. be a good literature student and analyse bestselling novels or great literary works and you can find out what makes the reader tick. if you’re really a writer with NO inspiration or muse, you could still use those formulaic techniques you’ve studied to create a great novel. theoretically that’s possible, and i don’t see why not practically. although yeah, that’d be a pretty sad existence.</p>

<p>I don’t exactly agree with you. Proper use of grammatical, stylistic, and literary conventions is key to writing an engaging passage, wouldn’t you say? Also, people with a knack for writing are usually people who have read books from an early age. Thus, if schools found more efficient ways of encouraging younger students to read, and if parents supported the schools’ efforts, I’m sure there would be a higher percentage of adept writers in the general population.</p>

<p>I know it’s debatable, but I meant in school, right now, practically. You can’t teach a kid to write better by just saying “Here are the grammar rules. Here are accepted style conventions. Go at it.” It doesn’t work that way.</p>