Where did you get fleeing from?
Judo, are you serious? LOL. Wow.
That’s why I said “or similar” and “close combat throw”.
I love how you accuse the writer of sensationalizing, then throw in that the victim was “fleeing” when nobody has ever said that.
Kinetic energy, tackling much worse, judo, physical action of agents, etc., all designed to detract from her poor choice of words.
OK. Let’s agree to disagree. Let me ask you instead how you would have phrased it? and remember that this is not a news article, but a commentary.
First, I would not have written an opinion attacking UVA and its venerable history. Second, if the point of the article is the perfect storm of bad publicity, I would have stated that the incident raises unanswered questions as to how students are treated at UVA, including whether the ABC officers used excessive force. And third, I would have used the piece to defend UVA and discount the alleged rape incident by demonstrating how a poorly reported story contributed to the perfect storm.
What if you didn’t think its history was “venerable”. It is interesting that you consider its history “venerable” when it has certain aspects in its history that people find repugnant. Eg- not allowing blacks; not allowing women.
I do agree with you that several of the recent incidents have nothing to do with UVA’s policies (except obviously the Sullivan firing and bruhaha).
Sweet Briar is an all women college and is closing, is that right? What about HBCs. Are they inclusive? How about Bob Jones University or BYU or Baylor or Liberty U. What about Penn State?
Let’s talk about history. How about Brown and its slave founder? Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Columbia were all male until recently and had anti Semitic quotas.
My point is that UVA is unremarkable insofar as its historical treatment of women and minorities. On the other hand, it has a rich history of educating some of America’s greatest minds and leaders, including Jefferson.
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Actually, Jefferson went to William and Mary, not UVA
I am not sure about UVA’s history compared to other schools. Without researching it I would guess that it was similar to some of the other schools you mentioned, like the Ivies, but I would guess that admitting blacks or women happened much later than the “average” school.
I just looked up William and Mary and see that they admitted women in the 1920s, and the first black person attended there in 1951. Va. Tech was 1921 for women and early 1950s for blacks. Sounds like UVA’s history is more remarkable than unremarkable.
So you would never write a story about Yale, etc if they developed major problems, because they have a venerable history?
Finally, I am not sure what your point is in the first paragraph. HBCs for example have always admitted students that are/were not black. Bob Jones, BYU etc also admit all types. Not a ton decide to go there if they aren’t Mormon, but they could. Same thing with Liberty etc. I am also not sure what your point was about Penn State. It admitted both women and blacks in the 1800s.
My point was that every college has offended discrete groups at one time or another, and UVA is hardly alone in that department. The “so what” comes to mind to many readers. I added Penn State because of its recent scandals that suggest kids were ignored to protect the coaches. The other schools have offended gays, prevented interracial dating, limited enrollment for certain groups and excluded others.
The reporter should be ashamed of herself for her biased and judgmental finger pointing.
And UVA needs to be more aggressive in defending its stellar reputation of inclusiveness.
I originally posted the Washington Post column to point out that this type of press coverage can be very damaging to UVa at this critical time when students are making their choices of where to attend. Whether or not you agree with what the column says, it’s out there and people read it. And many people do in fact believe everything they read. Today’s Post has more coverage of UVa, not the least of which is an 11% price hike for incoming in state first year students. I question the wisdom of the Board for implementing such a large increase at this time of crisis. In any other business, when your reputation is being called into question, the last thing you want to do is jack up the price of your offering.
UVa has had a very tough stretch in the media. Police Chief Longo is going to need an agent soon to manage all of his appearances on national TV. But UVA will be totally totally fine.
Applications were up this cycle even with all the bad press.
UVA’s yield on in-state accepted students is about 65%. That’s the same yield as Princeton and Yale. That yield level tells you that UVA can sell seats to in-state families all day long no problem. While the in-state parents will no doubt grumble about the tuition hike, UVA in-state remains one of the best price/reputation ratios in all of American higher education.
More telling will be how the yield turns out for the OOS accepted student pool. There the price is much higher and UVA therefore competes with a lot of private colleges and other OOS flagships.