@HighLady8 Definitely try not to read into anything, although it certainly is hard not to. Thank you for the well wishes for my daughter and same to you! I think just having the opportunity to be there was so amazing! Now we wait. 
@DivaStageMom @NeensMom @BloomingGirl Thanks for all of the insight. We were also at Montclair on Saturday and left feeling that the process was unfair. D’s audition was scheduled after 10 and we checked in around 9:20 so she could get acclimated, warm up and chill out for a little before going in the room. She was called an hour early so that was unexpected. Told her to roll with it & she did. The room she went in had 1 person (now thinking this may have been Clay?) Very businesslike- stand on the X, sing, act, leave. She really wasn’t given an opportunity to show her personality. Before the dance call, we were chatting with others that had 2 people in the room, so I couldn’t understand how that was fair. Anyway, D said dance call was fun. Harder than some, but not the worst. Another friend that auditioned later in the afternoon with 2 in the room said they were laughing & engaging him. Again, I thought the 2 vs. 1 in the room was a little unfair. So I really appreciate that you were able to educate me that it actually wasn’t!!
We also heard the student say 1700 auditions for a class of 18-20. They also don’t prescreen, so I don’t know how many take it serious. We know one student who never auditioned before and decided to do it last minute. Even with the one-offs though, still a crazy crapshoot.
Good luck to all!
@MommaCat My D ended up not changing out of her dance attire. She enjoyed the dance call. Was excited to find that a girl she had done a summer camp was also auditioning so that helped her to relax. She had her interview after that, I believe with someone from Dance. Then did both monologues, and workshopped the second one. She sang both songs in front of someone from dance as well as voice. She knows not to read too much into anything, but she appreciated being complemented on her dance call. She was one of the last ones to audition-probably 5 after she was finished. It was a long day. She didn’t finish until almost 6:30.
She really enjoyed her conversations with the freshmen and upperclassmen who were helping with auditions. She appreciated their openness about the program and the tight-knit feeling between those freshmen.
@IStressSoDWont - we have one kid in my town last year who auditioned for NYU Tisch acting on a whim - got a couple of monologues together and got in - the only artistic school he applied to - this completely ruins my narrative when I complain about how incredibly hard this process is to people who have no clue - so I wouldn’t even count out those kids who “just show up” 
^^^While NOT a whim, my D’s husband only auditioned at NYU/Tisch (for acting) and he got in and is now a professional in the field. Also, at my D’s high school, in her year, only one other friend auditioned for a BFA in MT and she only applied to 2 schools: NYU/Tisch and Emerson. Got into Emerson. So, it happens.
@DivaStageMom @soozievt Oh Gosh!! Talk about all your eggs in one basket! The child I was speaking of is almost certainly going to another large university for engineering and just auditioned because “what if…” I will relay these stories . . . because you never know!!
The students (now graduates) I mentioned truly were looking to go into this field.
@IStressSoDWont @soozievt - it’s just the point that you are complaining to somebody how crazy this process is and the 25 schools we applied to and the trips around the country only to hear back that so and so rolled out of bed one morning memorized two monologues and applied only to Tisch and got in - UGH!! That’s not how it works!
@DivaStageMom - keep in mind that Tisch does accept a larger group of applicants than any other school except AMDA and unlike most BFAs 50% of the acceptance there is based on academics. Also, Tisch likes actors with “presence” so if this kid had untrained talent, rocked his audition, did well in the interview and had a stellar academic record his chances at Tisch are higher than just about any other competitive BFA program. But yes, I can see where that would TRULY be aggravating!!!
@CaMom13 - this particular boy is model good looking and very funny - but he never did the plays or the musicals - everyone thought he should be an actor because he was so handsome - whatever…
I think NYU looks for raw talent as well. I am aware of a girl who auditioned last year at Thespian Convention and was accepted from that. She was placed in Experimental. She had not really done much performance-wise and quite a few of the theatre students were very surprised, shocked even! No coach, nobody working with her. But off to NYU she went!
Hi my D did a walk-in at Chicago Unifieds for the University of Wisconsin, Stevens Point (BFA) MT program. She really enjoyed the audition. Does anyone have any current/recent information on the program? Many Thanks. ?
@CaMom13 @onette I wish I had known beforehand which schools look for and appreciate raw talent. I think it would have changed our list quite a bit. My daughter is crazy talented vocally but very raw. I think our lack of understanding about which schools look for more polished kids and which schools look for break-out potential hurt her in both her prescreen success and her live auditions. Incredibly, she felt great about all her lives and yet the rejections are pouring in. She did get calllbacks for both BoCo and Pace at least and she did apply to NYU but MT only so I don’t know what they look for there. In the end, she only needs one good fit acceptance, but we are still waiting for it and it’s agonizing. I sure hope one comes. And it would be super helpful to have a list out there that shares what makes a kid a good fit for each program. Maybe I’ll start a thread for people to chime in on.
Hang in there @NeensMom ! I have to tell you - it is HARD to get objective info on MT programs and honestly part of it is due to the fact that we are often the blind leading the blind. If you say “college X really looks for polished singers” someone will chime in that they know a completely unpolished singer who got into college X last year. So you have to pick and choose who to believe. I often reference @beachymom 's post from last year which discusses “slant” for each program and I am also a strong proponent of consulting a national coach if possible because they actually KNOW who gets accepted where. But that’s water under the bridge for you. KEEP THE FAITH! Two years ago my kid was a raw talent with 2 academic acceptances and a long string of artistic rejections. She is doing so well artistically now that I practically bust with pride when I see/hear her perform. I know it’s hard to believe that things work out for the best but they often DO - so often that I can tell you quite sincerely - just stay positive and in the end this will work out for your D. Don’t despair - it ain’t over until the gravity-challenged individual sings. Really.
@NeensMom - as we go down this road I am thinking the same thing - for instance, my d is a triple threat but not a standout vocally with huge pop belt and riffs that are trending now - I immediately noticed that she did better with schools that had a difficult dance call such as Texas State, FSU and Montclair - not as well in others like NYU and BW where dance was more of a check-box. But the schools don’t advertise this because they want everyone to apply - so if you get wind they count dance heavily then you may not apply and their numbers don’t look as good. It’s part of the reason we end up applying to so many schools because they don’t say - we want edgy looking non-dancers with a huge pop-belt - right, that would be too easy - it’s like go ahead and apply - pay the fee-take the trip - and get the rejection because you aren’t what we want. Luckily the pre-screens do weed some of this out - but not enough. I guess its really our opinion of how the audition went, but I do think it would be good to make a post directed towards this for next year’s class when all is said and done - because this is so much on the kids and the parents not to have some guidelines.
@DivaStageMom “edgy looking non-dancers with a huge pop-belt” this is my daughter exactly! In fairness, she is an average dancer but not a true dancer by any means. I would have LOVED a list that told me which schools were a potential good fit based on her type!
@NeensMom - funny because that’s not my daughter AT ALL - but I heard Pace was looking for that - I also felt that Baldwin Wallace was all voice the dance was a joke, maybe NYU - you said she applied there - they tend to like what’s trending now. Oh and Penn State - we were optimistic about the audition but the dance call was very edgy - American Idiot - so I felt they were looking for edgy rock and roll - just a guess - my d loved Texas State they did Fose - that’s her style.
I still think it’s all a big gamble/guessing game lol. I also think that it could possibly change each year w each school. There were so many schools we were advised to not apply for as they are looking for type “ A” and my kid is type “B” or vice versa. There are posts I have seen where parents or even college coaches say how a child did not pass a prescreen this year because a school does not generally look for and pass type A and prefer certain B types, qualities, or strengths ect. In most instances this year my kid has passed all prescreens that we were advised not to bother with as my kid is opposite of what that schools type is… Or the grades aren’t quite up to par or the most important strength for that school is what is my child’s weakest. On the flip side, schools we thought may be easier prescreen passes where all big NOs lol. This is why my honest opinion is to cast a wide net. Go for it. It’s too unpredictable to try to guess or strategize who will or won’t be interested. Don’t be afraid to go for your “unattainable” dream schools. As they say, someone has to get in right? I know there are some amazing kids on here that seem to have a long list of acceptances. However in my experience I have found we needed to apply to a larger number to have around 3 really good choices that they would be excited to attend. My child looked through many of the lists beforehand to figure out a more refined list based on what they thought they wanted. However, based on past experience, I think they have a general idea but don’t TRULY know until they have visited or sat in on classes. Your previous dream school could end up being a huge disappointment and a walk in be a pleasant surprise. Again, cast a wide net, take some chances, and go from there. We are waiting to see where my kid (hopefully) is accepted and then sit in on classes and see what feels like home and where they truly belong. Fingers crossed!!!
I don’t think there is any way to game the system. Even kids with coaches all just prepare as best they can. They might have more info about how the process works, and help picking good monologues and songs that show off their voice. Mostly I think it’s that they get early access to auditioning (mock and real sometimes).
It’s up to the school to choose what they need and what kids are the best fit for their program. Some kids are wildly talented and kill it (the audition) and still don’t get a spot. Why, who knows? Maybe they already have someone who looks just like them, or sounds just like them. Sometimes it has to do with what shows they imagine them fitting into. I have to believe that things work out for a reason, but the waiting is crazy making for us all!
My D has one last audition in March at Kent State. I know very little about the program - I did try to search on CC, but you all are so much better at this than me, so maybe someone can point me in a direction for another thread or maybe someone else has auditioned there recently? She has Celiac Disease so the all Gluten Free Cafeteria has her excited…lol.