The Dance--interest between coaches and athletes

<p>Of the schools our student is looking at–one has great services for the varsity athletes because they are tired physically beyond the daily grind of classes…</p>

<p>…so they do work with them on dorm lottery, tutoring, schedules so they can get into the lab sciences they need etc…and don’t get shut out for example…</p>

<p>I have talked with parents of kids who have been varsity athletes at college and those services do help the kids because they are not only full time students but if they are praticing 18 hours a week…and it is different from an EC that is not physcially demanding.</p>

<p>One parent I spoke with said that the support for the team was especially important–the student is olympic swimming material and will be in a pool 6 hrs a day—these athletes take 5 yrs to graduate</p>

<p>Our student sent update emails out–got responses from 4 coaches within a hr…and hoping to hear from others in coming days.</p>

<p>fogfog- Have you sent off the transcripts & scores yet?</p>

<p>We will send transcripts this week–Have the fax # for one HYP and Waiting to cofnrim fax for the other…</p>

<p>the SAT scores keep our student in the upper part of the AI however our stundet can do much better–did not clear the 2200 mark our student wanted…</p>

<p>how low a threshold is ok to reveal–?
1800
1900
2000
2100
2200
etc</p>

<p>FWIW fogfog, my (HS junior) daughter and I have decided it was too much work to do otherwise, and to simply disclose her SAT scores to coaches as we go through the process, rather than go through any sort of game. We’ll see if that approach was good, but think it will be the least hassle on both sides.</p>

<p>Thrill</p>

<p>But if the student has taken the SAT once and plans to retake it later in the yr—
Is it possible to shut a door before all the evidence is in?</p>

<p>If the schools typical test scores are 200 pts higher for example–than even with a great gpa, sports, ECs etc–one bad sitting–does that kill a deal–even before the official recruiting period opens (post 7/1)</p>

<p>Fogfog, I think every coach has heard “but I can do better next time on the SAT” - my guess is that if the coach thinks you’re borderline in academic measure then he’ll tell you so, and that any coach that would shut the door early without a little, well, coaching, is likely unpleasant to work for.</p>

<p>That said, my daughter is pleased that her number one choice replies personally and warmly to her every correspondence (so far), but confused that some (but not all) of the other coaches (such as the nearby State U) don’t even acknowledge her emails - I haven’t generated any numbers, but the quality of the teams’ win/loss records seems so far to track well with those coaches that provide feedback in correspondence.</p>

<p>We’ve found some coaches respond quickly, others don’t. Some just send out quick updates about how their teams are doing, while others write long, personal messages. A few coaches we had written off due to lack of interest all of a sudden began writing regularly. I haven’t been able to find a pattern in my son’s case. We’ll just hang on for the ride and see what happens. He can’t commit early because we need to see financial aid packages, so we’ll just hang on for the ride!</p>

<p>Regarding reporting SAT scores, my D did notify all schools of her first set of SAT scores and coaches were very straight forward about if the scores met what they needed for admissions, or what they needed/wanted from her in that element. She will take them again, but it was helpful to get an early clue from the various coaches as to whether the initial scores were in the right range, or what she should be aiming for if not. No one counted her out because of initial scores (which were strong, but not 2400…).</p>

<p>fogfog – if scores are in mid-50% range for the school, certainly no reason not to reveal the scores to coaches. Student is in the ball park.</p>

<p>thrill – S’s experience was as MaineLonghorn describes. He had written off a few coaches, only to have them pop back in later, still very interested.</p>

<p>Agree with all who note the unpredictability of coaches and their emails. Coaches that seem generally uninterested as the months go by can show up with great offers and those that have crafted long and loving missives can simply disappear. I’d recommend being up front about the scores, especially if the coach knows the athlete has taken the SATs. In fact, in general it is better to be honest, clear and straightforward - the more information you give, the more you will get back.</p>

<p>Several coaches poped in via email etc in last few days…and student just faxed transcript, resume w times etc, ECs/vol and award news article…</p>

<p>I also encourage you to send whatever scores s/he has now to the coaches. If your child is shooting for 2200, then s/he probably is well in the 1800-2000 range now, which certainly won’t scare any coaches off.</p>

<p>Coaches know athletes often really increase their scores, once they find time to prep and study for new sittings. With a great GPA, they’ll believe kid can improve.</p>

<p>At the Ivies, and 1800 is the general SAT cutoff, but it can go even a bit lower for hard sports. Check out Naviance.</p>

<p>I second fauve’s advice, for what it’s worth!</p>

<p>I’ll third it. The coaches aren’t going to eliminate any prospects right now, and a mid-range score is fine to report. It tells the coaches your child is a legitimate candidate. As time goes on, you can ask what score they’d like to see. You may find the score on the books is good enough.</p>

<p>Thanks for the advice</p>

<p>Our student solidly broke through the 1900 mark but wants to be in the 2200 mark…very doable with some prep–which really wasn’t done before-</p>

<p>We rushed into the Jan SAT as the coaches asked for SATs asap–</p>

<p>will be taking the ACT in April
SAT2s (chem/physics and MAth 2) in May and
SAT in June</p>

<p>Can providing a 1900-2000 score be to the detriment since the top schools have SATs in the 2100-2400 range?
the AI is still over 200 </p>

<p>thoughts?</p>

<p>fogfog - Those are very good first time scores - as noted in the previous posts, definitely send them on. In the same communication, your athlete can note the upcoming planned ACT and SAT and SAT subject tests too so the coaches know they can look forward to learning those scores too. These scores make your athlete a viable recruit, and this can only help your student at this relatively early stage.</p>

<p>fogfog - I would recommend beginning to prep for the April ACT with the red “Real ACT” book. Do some Timed sections to get a feel for the test. The timing can be tighter than the SAT. You want to put your best foot forward on test day to try for the best result. I think the higher the athlete is on the coach’s list, the more flexibility with scores to a point. With nonrevenue sports however, the IVY coach is looking for a great athlete with great scores.</p>

<p>her current score is admirable, and will keep her on everybody’s list :)</p>