<p>fog, real converstions via email since october is huge. if this a top D1 program i’d take that leve of interaction as your kiddo is “in”…when the time comes.</p>
<p>is this the head coach or assitant/recruting coach?</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts</p>
<p>I am guessing since they have a big thing coming up that its about being busy–and yet since there are so many kids out there…would hate for there to be cooling already…when there is plenty of PRs to come and scores etc…
… Kiddo got emails from 5 D1 coaches today following up on an email sent last night…all encouraging–some more chatty than others…</p>
<p>still waaay too early for anything to mean much of anything…don’t want to overread anything and yet have read here how parents wished they had taken things at face value…
and not read into nor dismissed things at face value.
So taking that advice…wanting to take this all in context.</p>
<p>chatter was thick from multile d1 last year. all made offer (the we want you will u comit to us type) real offer only came from school she committed to</p>
<p>Hey fog, it seems to me the coaches in this sport are more “chatty” than swim coaches are (at least the ones I had knowledge of). My daughter has been getting some great, long emails, with detailed scholastic and training advice, as well as lots of encouragement. She has done a couple of erg pieces that she sent updates on and while her times are not where they need to be yet, she is improving quickly. All the feedback from coaches has been very positive and motivating. </p>
<p>My daughter is really excited about our trip. We are leaving tomorrow afternoon for two weeks. She has her first unofficial visit on Wednesday. She is touring the campus, meeting with coaches on campus and then heading to the boathouse to watch practice. I will try to post updates as we go!</p>
<p>Have fun, fishymom!! It will be a blast. I will always remember fondly my trips with my son this past year. </p>
<p>We have one more trip this weekend, to Susquehanna, for a third look. This is the school in PA that has offered him a full-tuition merit scholarship. I hope they put quite a show on for him! There is a presentation about the honors program and a “formal dinner” afterwards. I e-mailed them to see what people will wear! We will be driving 9 hours from Maine to get there, and I’m trying to figure out when/where to change.</p>
<p>Thanks Maine! And I am quite familiar with Susquehanna! My Grandparents lived in a small town not too far from there. We lived there for several years in the late 80’s and my kids grew up spending summers there. We will actually be visiting friends up there next week. (And hoping to interest my daughter in Bucknell!)</p>
<p>Safe travels and I hope things go perfectly for your son!</p>
<p>ps. my first roommate was from Bangor, many, many moons ago</p>
<p>fishymom: it is against NCAA rules for college coaches to give training advice to prospective athletes while they’re in high school, so I’m not sure what you mean by your post #104.</p>
<p>I meant training advise in the most general sense, keep working hard, etc. No rule breaking, I promise!</p>
<p>Hi MaineLonghorn,
Good luck at Susquehanna! My nephew is currently a LAX player there. We’re heading up your way to Maine in the next couple of weeks for another visit to Colby - our son will be playing football there.</p>
<p>Fishy, I think coaches and email varies
certainly from sport to sport, school to school,
each coach/person is different
and women’s sports vs mens sports will be different…
so what your daughter is getting (lots of early attention) may be a stronger indication for her </p>
<p>so email from Oct is no indication. pacheight–at least in tis case there is no “in” anywhere as we all know its the AdCom that admits…and our kiddo hasn’t even appied yet–
only 2 of those 5 recent emails have the Jan transcript and Jan SATs…though all others hav asked for eveything come June.</p>
<p>One school coach sent a package indicating that end up supporting less than a doz at AdCom after everything if sifted out and that the AdCom does NOT diviate from the stats of the typical student to admit athletes…</p>
<p>Seven weeks of school left–ACTS, SATs APS exams etc…
sports events, vol service work etc etc
researching summer plans…</p>
<p>lots to do</p>
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<p>I wonder what that means in practice … e.g., does an athlete at the 25% point get in over a non-athlete at that same point, or what …</p>
<p>fog, i think your daughter is going to have a lot of opportunity! I would cautiously use the “in” phrase if she has been pre-read by admissions.</p>
<p>adcom and stats. depends on the school, HYPS etc very little and in some sports athletes are held to a touch higher standard, but take say UCLA…they drop their admission requirements to the floor. typical non athlete needs 4.4w and a 2200 sat (and it’s still a flip of the coin with 53,000 applications), but athlete; 3.0 and an 1800 SAT. BIG disclaimer there are also a lot of very bright and academically accomplished scholar-athletes at UCLA.</p>
<p>The bottom 25% are URMs, first generation, disadvantaged, with the posssible exception of extremely elite athletes. </p>
<p>There are 7000 kids with great scores and grades, and enough of them are talented athletes that they don’t have to lower the bar.</p>
<p>Amherst has 45 sports for the entire athletic program(so says the coach we worked with)He had 4 spots for the boys AND girls teams to “support” below the 50th percentile athlete who is not poor, not URM, not first generation etc etc.</p>
<p>In our town the H recruit for swimming had plus 700s SATs, 93 ish average, mixed AP/IB curriculum, ranked in the top 5 in NYS in 2 events.</p>
<p>Regarding the coaches and their emails, we have had fun distinguishing between the different personalities of the various coaches (all for the same sport), and the difference between communicating with a man vs. a woman - fun for us to observe, and for my daughter to tailor her response to the established personality of the coach!</p>
<p>Have fun fogfog and fishymom!</p>
<p>To follow up on OldbatsieDoc, on one of our visits, a HYP coach told us that they received something like 26,000 applications last year, with something like 8,000 students with perfect SAT scores, for a class of around 1,400. So yes, strong academics for athletes in the ivies…!</p>
<p>thats just impossible. only about 300 kids every year get perfect SATs. no where near even a thousand</p>
<p>somewhere on the boards another poster put up a list of the # of perfect scores …I have no idea how to even find that kind of information.</p>
<p>"Over 100 Score Perfect 2400 in New SAT
NewsMax.com Wires
Thursday, April 14, 2005
Austin Weiss is a pioneer in perfection, a charter member of an elite new club: students who scored a flawless 2400 on the new SAT.</p>
<p>When the college entrance exam expanded from two sections to three this year, the mark required for perfection rose from 1600 to 2400. This week, as the 300,000 students who took the first sitting of the new test March 12 began receiving scores, the College Board reported that 107 scored a perfect 800 on each of the three sections - writing, critical reading and math."</p>
<p>So that is 107 out of 300,000 (1 out of 2800). Another article I read said that “the College Board reports approximately one student in 5,000 taking the SAT gets a perfect score of 2,400.” That would be 200 students if one million take it. So somewhere between 200 and 400 students, I would guess.</p>
<p>But don’t forget the impact of “superscoring”, which means that a 2400 may be achieved with 800s in the different sections over a series of test dates. Still very impressive, but not as impressive as that one test date 2400.</p>
<p>Point taken! Quite honestly, I was just reporting the numbers that got thrown out in our conversation. I have absolutely NO idea (obviously!) what the actual stats are for perfect SAT scores, but naturally this statement from the coach really shocked me - ! So maybe it is somewhere between what was said, and the end result of the number of people who are superscored to a 2400? Regardless, it got my attention - ! I don’t mean to throw anyone else off…</p>