The Dawn of the Marijuana Industry

<p>To equate MJ and cigarettes is to ignore all scientific and medical evidence. Lots and lots of people die from smoking cigarettes. No one dies from MJ smoking and the reasons for that seem obvious - you don’t smoke anywhere near the amount that a tobacco smoker does, and at least for now, pot doesn’t contain a lot of chemical additives like commercially sold tobacco does. </p>

<p>In any event, MJ can easily be consumed without involving fire/smoke.</p>

<p>I believe the illegality of MJ causes exponentially more problems than legalization would. I suppose we’ll find out.</p>

<p>We should absolutely make tobacco illegal. How does our society benefit from tobacco? what do you think Tom?</p>

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<p>There are many differences between Marijuana and cigarettes but they are the same in one important area – they are both harmful to the smoker.</p>

<p>@razorsharp: Economically?</p>

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<p>Doing time in prison and having a lifelong criminal record is pretty harmful to a smoker too.</p>

<p>Not to mention the rest of us who have to pay for the system that deals with that illegality.</p>

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<p>Many studies of the cost benefit of marijuana overlook the full cost and externalties or make false assumptions. I have seen arguments saying legalizing marijuana will generate tax revenue. If you need more tax revenue, then increase taxes on existing businesses. Letting businesses sell marijuana won’t generate as much revenue as claimed. Why would a consumer buy pot from a store, if he can grow it in his back yard for nothing? </p>

<p>Many of the economic cost of marijuana often get overlooked because they are difficult to quantify. When you diminish the capacity of a workforce, it is difficult to measure what the productivity would have been without the agent causing the reducing in productivity.</p>

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<p>For the same reasons that very few people brew their own beer, make their own wine and grow their own tobacco…or grow their own food, for that matter. It’s an investment of time and energy that many do not care to make.</p>

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<p>The solution isn’t to legalize bad behavior but encourage people to obey the law. There are a lot of people serving long sentences for murder. Under the logic of your argument, murder should be legalized to avoid the cost of incarcerating them.</p>

<p>Very few people are in prison for smoking pot. I am not aware of any state that makes smoking pot a felony. Selling pot, however, is often a felony.</p>

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<p>That is not my argument. My argument is that the cost of punishing people for smoking pot is greater than the cost to the victim…oh wait. There isn’t a victim. We are talking about people choosing to eat/drink/smoke a substance.</p>

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<p>Actually, that’s not correct. It is, under federal law, possible to go to jail for a year for a first offense of any amount. In many states it is not hard to possess an amount considered to be enough to sell. And we are not getting into repeat offenses. Sadly, many people ARE in jail because they smoke pot, and many, many more because they grew it (even for themselves) or sold it.</p>

<p>So how do you propose we get people to stop smoking weed?</p>

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<p>There is a difference between prisons and jails. I guess you don’t know that. Your first comment was about prisons.</p>

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<p>I don’t know. Legalizing it will increase usage not reduce it.</p>

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<p>Law exists solely to promote order. People smoking weed, IMO, causes less disorder than criminalization of possession. Murder is more disorderly than arresting murderers. Encouraging people to obey the law is only worthwhile in that it is supposed to encourage people to be orderly. If enforcing the law causes more disorder than not having the law, the law is a bad law.</p>

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<p>People generally do quit on their own. They grow up. And if they don’t, it’s not weed that stopped them from growing up.</p>

<p>So people who smoke pot arent adults?
As oppsed to those who drink alcohol?
Must be why i look so youthful!
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<p>*Why would a consumer buy pot from a store, if he can grow it in his back yard for nothing? *
My field is horticulture & I am not interested in growing my own mmj because it sounds like a huge pita, with the lights & checking the soil comp., etc.</p>

<p>People are not only in prison for smoking mmj, but some have died because of being imprisoned.
Just last year in Washington state.
[Inmate</a> with dairy allergy dies after eating oatmeal | Local & Regional | Seattle News, Weather, Sports, Breaking News | KOMO News](<a href=“http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Inmate-michael-saffioti-with-dairy-allergy-dies-after-eating-oatmeal-174289031.html?mobile=y]Inmate”>http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Inmate-michael-saffioti-with-dairy-allergy-dies-after-eating-oatmeal-174289031.html?mobile=y)</p>

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<a href=“http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/interviews/schlosser.html[/url]”>http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/interviews/schlosser.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>I many states, first offense of possession of a small amount of marijuana is met with a fine. That is not much more disruptive than enforcing traffic offenses. About 40 states have drug courts to help repeat drug user to help them grow up.</p>

<p>Vladenshutte, I was responding to Razorshap’s post that we should just encourage people to obey the law.</p>

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<p>Oh wow, excellent point, that completely changed my mind about this.</p>

<p>Except that people convicted of possession DO go to PRISON. In the federal case, it’s jail first offense, prison 2nd and subsequent offenses.</p>

<p>So I stand by my reply to you:</p>

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<p>Feel free to substitute “jail the first time” for “prison the second and later times” in that sentence if it helps you.</p>

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<p>It’s simply not true. There is a big difference between a first time possession of marijuana and someone who distributes marijuana.</p>

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<p>[Marijuana</a> and Who?s in Prison | SAM](<a href=“http://learnaboutsam.com/the-issues/marijuana-and-whos-in-prison/]Marijuana”>http://learnaboutsam.com/the-issues/marijuana-and-whos-in-prison/)</p>

<p>If smoking marijuana is so harmful, why not just not smoke it? </p>

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<p>Provide a safer alternative. </p>

<p>Pot brownies? Pot donuts? Pot tea? Pot lemonade? </p>

<p>Pot pills? Pot cough syrup? Pot patches? Pot vapor rub? </p>

<p>There are so many options to chose from!</p>

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What is wrong with increased usage?</p>

<p>Since it is difficult for some to read the interviewI quoted, I will link to the articles and see if that is helpful.</p>

<p>[More</a> Reefer Madness - 97.04](<a href=“http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/97apr/reef.htm]More”>More Reefer Madness - The Atlantic)</p>

<p>[Reefer</a> Madness - Eric Schlosser - The Atlantic](<a href=“Reefer Madness - The Atlantic”>Reefer Madness - The Atlantic)</p>

<p>[Marijuana</a> and the Law - 94.09](<a href=“http://www.theatlantic.com/past/politics/crime/marjuan.htm]Marijuana”>Marijuana and the Law - The Atlantic)</p>

<p>The vigorous enforcement of marijuana laws has resulted in four million arrests since the early 1980s. Owing to mandatory-minimum sentences, many of those convicted are receiving stiff prison terms, even as violent criminals are released for lack of space. The second part of a two-part article</p>