The importance of high school GPA

<p>Does it even matter?</p>

<p>I mean, as long as you're not failing, does it matter? What do you think is the relative importance of these numbers we're all stressed about day-to-day?</p>

<p>High school GPA is the most important factor in college admissions. Of course it matters.</p>

<p>Class ranking is so much more important than GPA. A 3.4 in some schools in top 10 percent, whereas in others is around 50 percentile.</p>

<p>High school Gpa shouldn't mean anything most kid at my school with 4.0 just have no lives and study all day and they have lower SATs than I do and I have a 2.98. I know I could of had a 3.5 or higher if I really cared that much but I had fun and thats what really matters.</p>

<p>GPA is very important - just look at the Naviance scattergrams and you will see how important it is.</p>

<p>Kids at my school have 90+ avg with less than 1100/1600 SATs and I have a 83 avg with 1200/1600 SATs, so it will be interesting to see who gets in.</p>

<p>If you just plan on getting your high school diploma, yeah, it doesn't matter so long as you don't fail classes. But I think I can safely say nobody on this site does not want to go to college, and for getting into college GPA is by far the most important factor.</p>

<p>Pretty much everyone who go to Ivy League has impressive ECs besides high GPA and SAT. So, you really think they have no life? Yeah, right. One can have a high GPA AND have fun.</p>

<p>At my school 98% of those with a higher GPA than mine is Asian. I'm Middle-Eastern/White.</p>

<p>My school is almost 50% Asian. I don't think colleges will care too much about my class rank once they take a look at those above me. Also, AP classes are 10-20% weighted, and honors classes 5%. The grade inflation is staggering, with grades well above the 100s. It's disgusting.</p>

Here's what they care about:</p>

<p>They don't really give too much of a damn about the cumulative GPA unless your 4.0 and val.</p>

<p>They only care about improvement throughout high school, so say you had a 3.8 freshman year, a 3.9 soph, and a 4.0 junior, that would indicate that you are academically capable.</p>

<p>The MOST important grades, are those that are on your midyear report, as they are the final indicator of how you will do.</p>

<p>Lastly, they are only looking to see you can handle the courseload at HYPSM, or whatever other schools, they aren't looking to see if you have been anal about your grades (in fact, that would be a negative if you came off as grade obsessed).</p>

<p>Remember that applicants are looked at holistically at the top schools, and a low GPA/SAT can indeed be made up for with marked improvement, and some passionate extra curriculars, along with an open interview. Best of luck!


<p>This may get my award for the worst advice I've seen in a long time on CC.</p>

<p>It does sound as if some posters are confusing their desires and opinions with the real world. If you believe that grades "shouldn't" matter, that won't help you for most colleges & U's. There are situations where exceptional scores can compensate to some degree (and even qualify the student for merit money), but that is usually relative to the strength of the academic program as well. And most often this does not result in admission as an unhooked candidate to a super-reachy school.</p>

<p>@Hope Full
the loophole in the class rank system is that some high schools have "smarter" people than others.
as a former valedictorian in my old school, I am not barely in the top 15% in my new public magnet school >.>
personally, I highly doubt my "intelligence" dissociated because of my change in geographic location.</p>

<p>I say the SAT/ACT is the most fair (although its not completely fair) academic indicator for college admission today.</p>

I say the SAT/ACT is the most fair (although its not completely fair) academic indicator for college admission today.


<p>Well that's not what admissions committees say.</p>

<p>SAT/ACT is an indicator of 2 things: potential (as opposed to proven 4-year performance) and test-taking ability. It is also a barometer to validate gpa, and/or to expose a differential between potential and performance.</p>

<p>Neither gpa nor standardized tests are disproportionately evaluated as stand-alone elements. All of the components of the application are measured in total and in context. (context of the school, context of the class, context of the applicant's background) This is one reason that the Secondary School Profile, sent by the counselor, is so important.</p>

<p>The Common Data sets, as well as other self-reporting by colleges, reveal that most colleges consider Very Important at least 7-9 factors to assess achievement and motivation, and Reach Schools consider as many as 11-15.</p>

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<p>The only conclusion I can draw from this is that you're lazy and still thinks that you're superior to those who work a lot harder.</p>

<p>My impression is that high school GPA is probably important relative to how rigorous the school is. The SAT/ACT are rather silly to normalize GPA against in many ways, actually, because they fundamentally reflect different test-taking formats and objectives. There is really no substitute to rigorous subject testing. </p>

<p>Also, high school GPA becomes more important in an absolute sense to public schools and the like, as they're perhaps in less of a hurry to nitpick on the other factors.</p>

<p>By far, the most important admissions factor is your high school GPA. Many colleges recalculate GPAs by doing things such as eliminating nonacademic courses and adding extra weight to AP, IB and honors courses.</p>

<p>"Students applying to college in 2004 should expect their academic record to be the single-most important factor in a college's decision to accept or deny their application for admission, according to a report issued Wednesday by the National Association for College Admission Counseling (NACAC)."</p>

<p>ACE</a> | Student Academic Record Continues To Be Most Important Factor in Admission According To NACAC Study</p>

<p>It's funny how there's a dismissive tone to some of the posters about those so-called grade hounds who have no life but studying. You know what? I attended a very rigorous HS and there were tons of people around me who blistered their GPAs while having great lives outside of the classroom. When I matriculated at a HYP college, I found my peers to be of the same ability to chew and walk at the same time.</p>

<p>Maybe some of these posters aren't used to being around kids like that -- therefore they just dismiss all 4.0 kids as study wonks. Certainly they exist. But you should have seen the kids at my college. Astounding.</p>

<p>^ Yes. This, this, this. The top kids at my HS hold multiple leadership positions and often spend many hours doing competitive ECs, volunteering, or working. Several are athletes. This idea that people with sky-high GPAs must have no lives seems like a lot of sour grapes to me.</p>

<p>I think GPA is the most important factor to High school student. Whatever most of the high school students work hard and spent most of their time at academic homework and projects. Also most of the high school students are really care about their grades for 4 years.</p>

<p>what's more important</p>

<p>UW or W class rank?</p>