The investment..speculation, out right gambling thread

<p>No sugar from the FOMC minutes…</p>

<p>If they are an electronics retailer and I’ve never heard of them - that’s bad news for them.</p>

<p>I have never heard of them either. Make that double bad news! :)</p>

<p>My biotechs are down a couple of bucks, but sort of hanging in there. The earnings week will be interesting.</p>

<p>I agree that most of those listed on 2058 are likely in trouble but think Nokia will stick around for the foreseeable future.</p>

<p>Wondering what folks think of Carnival Corporation (the company with cruise ships)? Thanks for any thoughts.</p>

<p>People in my office still do cruising on a regular basis so I see them surviving. I personally don’t get the concept but a lot of people like to eat and party.</p>

<p>There is more to crusing then eating and partying,lol…</p>

<p>I like to eat and party but not in a floating petri dish in the middle of the ocean for days. I don’t expect CCL to reach $48 again anytime soon and in fact, can’t even break $38 for the past 12 mos but it was a good ride from Jan to Jun.</p>

<p>Australia having a tough day, losing jobs…we are in for a big hurting, as the global economy grinds to a halt…</p>

<p>Doug Kass, who had until recently been fairly bullish, made some excellent points today,which i agree with of why investors are shunning the stock market</p>

<p>Here is a quick overview of what he said…</p>

<p>a decade of underperformance by U.S. stock market;</p>

<p>two large drawdowns in stocks in last decade (2001 and 2008-2009);</p>

<p>the plight of the middle class (when the average Joe sees stagnating incomes while the cost of the necessities of life rise, buying stocks ends up low on a consumer’s list of priorities);</p>

<p>the flash crash in 2010 scared the crap out of everyone (we still don’t know the reason for the flash crash, and algos and high-frequency trading strategies still rule the roost);</p>

<p>our dysfunctional leaders put partisanship in front of patriotism and effective fiscal policy; </p>

<p>scandals and loss of investor monies with Madoff, Stanford, MF Global and now Peregrine, plus the latest Liebor issues underscore (to many investors) that the system is rigged.</p>

<p>That is a pretty good list.</p>

<p>Volume is terrible.</p>

<p>I have been saying that a lot this year.</p>

<p>Not to mention the botched Facebook IPO with NASDAQ snafu…does not leave one with the warm fuzzies…</p>

<p>12,000 is coming</p>

<p>Ellemenope, forgot about that. Facebook wasn’t a positive.</p>

<p>Wayne Rogers does not look good in that reverse mortgage ad. He looks very old.</p>

<p>I think Ellenhope has been around quite awhile</p>

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… and ellemenope too ;)</p>

<p>Ipad finger and lack of coffee. :)</p>

<p>:)…</p>

<p>Ok…i think I know what happened…</p>

<p>Nevermind…</p>

<p>I deleted stuff.</p>

<p>I am not too worried about Austrailia. :)</p>

<p>I think there is a chance that Goog, Appl, Amzn, and Msft are going to take the profits out of the tablet market with their competition.</p>

<p>The tablet market is going to grow. Maybe that growth will take some of the sting out.</p>

<p>I am still long MSFT, but not that much. I am not going to put on the positions in MSFT that I planned.</p>

<p>dstark-
You don’t allow PMs?? You have yours turned off?</p>