The investment..speculation, out right gambling thread

<p>I betcha there aren’t a lot of people who have gotten the full upside that the s&p has shown since March 2009.</p>

<p>There is nothing wrong with being aware…</p>

<p>100 mls can be a long time…How long are the orders good before the orders are actually cancelled?</p>

<p>How much latency are we talking about?</p>

<p>How does this affect long term investors? How does this affect shorter term traders that aren’t trading based on speed?</p>

<p>Why should the retail investor be scared?</p>

<p>“I betcha there aren’t a lot of people who have gotten the full upside that the s&p has shown since March 2009.”</p>

<p>Why does this matter?</p>

<p>I am not understanding some of the latest posts. :)</p>

<p>“Which means 900 messages will arrive late to other traders (competitors) computers. Which is the whole point of this high technology warfare.”</p>

<p>I don’t like this, and this practice should be curtailed because you are not supposed to enter orders without any intent to trade, but how does this affect the public?</p>

<p>"Why does this matter?</p>

<p>I am not understanding some of the latest posts. "</p>

<p>First it matters because it means that people were not fully invested. It matters to me a lot because I wouldn’t be wasting my time here but would living at the beach for the rest of my life and drinking pina coladas.</p>

<p>I am not fully invested in stocks. I am never going to be fully invested in stocks. That risk profile doesn’t fit me. Doesn’t fit my needs. I don’t think being fully invested in stocks fits a lot of people.</p>

<p>I don’t need to buy bottoms and sell tops. That is kind of hard to do in real life…maybe on forums it is easy.</p>

<p>Trying to buy bottoms and sell tops adds a needless stress.</p>

<p>Would you really rather live on a beach than trade? Then make money? I don’t believe it. There are nice beaches all over the world where you can live right now and you would never need to make another dime.</p>

<p>[Retire</a> Cheap on the Beach](<a href=“http://retire-lifestyle.com/retire_beach.html]Retire”>http://retire-lifestyle.com/retire_beach.html)</p>

<p>Well - would you rather be working or living your current life of leisure? By the way, are you bored yet?</p>

<p>I’ve been to a number of the countries on that list. Assuming I can somehow handle my medical problems, I would like to spend winters in some of those places, Thailand (hot and humid but maybe not as bad in the winter), Colombia (only been in and near Bogota), Argentina definitely, Belize (no way, leave Belize City and not my cup of tea). Costa Rica is supposedly a good place but I’m not too certain how different it is from Belize.</p>

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<p>This guy wasn’t a day trader. He was with one of top three Wall street firms. Anyway, he was scared since 1987 crash. That’s being scared for a long time. On the other hand, I, a reatil investor, am not scared since I don’t really have a choice. Can’t really hold only cash.</p>

<p>I am not bored, and I won’t get bored. I don’t have a strong work ethic. I worked part time most of my life. If something great fell into my lap, I would consider it, but I am not looking.</p>

<p>Can you retire? Mentally? I am not making a judgment but some people can’t. My exboss can’t and he is going nuts. He doesn’t know what he wants to do going forward.</p>

<p>Since this is a trading thread…Trading is very different when you NEED to make money trading to live compared to when you don’t. I am not saying you need to make money trading. Sounds like you don’t. And that is good because the stress level is much higher if a person has to make
money trading. It is a different ballgame.</p>

<p>Can you take care of some of your physical problems? My blood pressure has dropped dramtically since I retired. 114 over 67 yesterday. Since I retired, the stress level has dropped, not just mine, but the households. My wife is less stressed. I think she is feeding off me. Things are great here. I did have a very stressful job. I did work with two psychotics, and I am not throwing that term around lightly. They are on major drugs…well at least one is…</p>

<p>Their problems were difficult to avoid. The company was small and the stress was everywhere. So, I am glad I am out.</p>

<p>" I don’t have a strong work ethic"</p>

<p>I hope my kids don’t read my posts. :)</p>

<p>“Can you take care of some of your physical problems?” I’m trying to this year but one in particular that you have had in the past (heart) is particularly vexing and I don’t see any easy solutions.</p>

<p>I used to have a strong work ethic but now I go to work, spend more time thinking about the market and other things than performing. By the end of this week, we’re suppose to come up with our “deliverables” for the year and our career goals. I don’t have any career goals so I’m not certain how to say this to my supervisor.</p>

<p>I got lucky. My problem has not appeared for over 5 years. When I had it, it sucked.</p>

<p>The career goal answer…</p>

<p>I was never really big on having a supervisor. I guess telling your supervisor you want to trade instead of spending much time thinking about the company is not going to fly. :)</p>

<p>I’ve thought I’d mention moving into finance and being involved in hedging strategies for currency risk, metals etc. but that is already being done at their headquarters outside of the US and apparently they are very successful at it so I guess for the next few years I’ll just write down some BS. I’m sure he knows that at my age its all BS anyways.</p>

<p>" I’m sure he knows that at my age its all BS anyways."</p>

<p>:)</p>

<p>Bond funds might get a little tricky…</p>

<p>[How</a> to Play Bond Funds in a Low-Yield Year - WSJ.com](<a href=“How to Play Bond Funds in a Low-Yield Year - WSJ”>How to Play Bond Funds in a Low-Yield Year - WSJ)</p>

<p>I sold pttrx which was in a 401k a few weeks ago.</p>

<p>I guess I will slow down or stop my bond purchases.</p>

<p>[Bill</a> Gross: Avoid long-term bonds - The Buzz - Investment and Stock Market News](<a href=“http://buzz.money.cnn.com/2013/01/03/bill-gross-bonds-outlook/?source=yahoo_quote]Bill”>http://buzz.money.cnn.com/2013/01/03/bill-gross-bonds-outlook/?source=yahoo_quote)</p>

<p>I sat down and read the entire latest edition of Smart Money. I don’t know what to make of it quite. They seem to think the year ahead is the year to get into real estate (REIT) funds. And they think there will be inflation, which naturally had me thinking of you guys.</p>

<p>It’s confusing what to do and when I think very long about it I just want to go barf because I feel so greedy and money grubbing thinking so much about our money and growing our money, etc.</p>

<p>Did figure out we are saving with company contributions slightly over 25 percent of gross income. It’s kind of hard to do it. We aren’t taking the vacations or driving the cars our neighbors are but you start to get mesmerized by the pile, a sickness in itself, I fear.</p>