The Johnson Scholarship Program

<p>FLVADAD: haha, that’s a great story. I always have noticed how enthusiastic W&L alums are about their experiences; it was one of the factors that made me think it might be a great fit for our son, even when he was far too young to think about it.</p>

<p>cassie_skye: Because I am married to my college sweetheart, I completely understand! And I really think my boys do as well, as they have grown up watching us remain very involved in our alma mater. I have always told them, with the utmost humility of course, that one of the best gifts you can give your children is a smart, involved mother :slight_smile: Methinks our son actually may have found “the one” at W&L … but that’s completely up to them! Whatever the future may hold, he’s one happy General right now.</p>

<p>Last August we visited UPenn. Our tour guide mentioned that 81% (not “most”, or “80%”, but precisely “81%”) of all thefts are bicycles and that if you leave your computer in the library, it will be gone within 20 minutes. On Friday, we visited OU, which targets NM finalists with a great package and which we were very impressed with. This year their library instituted a new rule that you don’t leave your computer alone, even if it is just to use the rest room.</p>

<p>So parents (and students/alum) of W&L, I am curious about one thing (honestly). On paper I loved W&L, as well as my kid. When we went back and visited, s/he still loved the campus (#1 out of 12 applied-to schools), but I hesitate now. I got the impression that you (and/or your parents) really need to have a lot of money to participate. That is not our case. How would a young adult that is not from the south (but has lots of family back east and applied to 10 out of 12 eastern schools), and not a lot of ready cash do at W&L? </p>

<p>Of course we are anxiously awaiting to see if we hear from the Johnson committee! :slight_smile: Then money would not be so much of an issue (hopefully!).</p>

<p>Great questions 4ChicksMom! </p>

<p>First, the “southern” thing – I understand that there is a southern vibe to W&L given its location and traditions, but the students really are from everywhere (85% OOS). And I don’t see it as being much more socially southern (what does that really mean, anyway, other than perhaps Greek oriented?) than my other son’s midwestern LAC. In fact, my son’s W&L brothers and housemates are predominantly not southern. Although frats may tend to have geographic tilts, I am not aware that the sororities do given their larger sizes. </p>

<p>As for money, well, we let our son know that there are going to be many students with more and some with less and it has never once been an issue. We have always had him pay for all his extras above tuition ($0, bless him and W&L), room and board, and he has done so from the money he earns over the summer and during the school year in his campus job. I would say the one aspect in which he has “felt” the family income differential would be that he has had to earn/save money to spend during the school year over the summer, whereas some others were able to study abroad/do unpaid internships. But I strongly believe it has not hurt him, socially or otherwise. No one seems to care, if they even notice.</p>

<p>One thing that distinguishes W&L, also, is the high number/percentage of W&L students with merit/need scholarships – this makes a very noticeable impact on economic diversity. I honestly feel that my alma mater, which does not have comparable aid for students, is far less economically diverse. </p>

<p>Secondly, and I believe more importantly, the “extras” cost of being a student at W&L (off campus food, entertainment, gas, off campus housing) has turned out to be far less for him than for his friends at other schools. There is just not as much to spend your money on in Lexington. And W&L students continue the tradition of making their own social lives, through campus-centered activities and parties that are open to all students of all ages without charge. And the Traveller system makes it possible for everyone to participate with a safe and free ride. </p>

<p>It’s always been my impression as well that girls pay less than guys, primarily bc the frat dues is so much higher than sorority dues given that they fund the parties. Of course that may be balanced out by the great equalizers – wardrobe and “maintenance” costs ;)</p>

<p>My son has virtually no time/occasion to spend money on going out to off-campus clubs and concerts. When he does, it’s usually a planned social event (often on a chartered bus, sometimes a sporting event) with his W&L friends or to meet up with a friend from another school. He eats at home and at his frat (cost of dining plan covers this) every day, only occasionally going out to restaurants – and there are plenty of student values around town for that. </p>

<p>As I recall, when he was looking at schools, there was some estimate of what a student at each school spends each week and I was somewhat surprised at how much less W&L kids spend than their counterparts on campuses located in cities/suburbs/more expensive areas of the country, where students take their social lives to non-school venues more frequently, resulting in more spending and social segregation based on who can afford that and who can get into the clubs. I have found support for that in what I have heard anecdotally from his friends at such schools. For example, one of his best friends, a student at Georgetown, told me it’s cheaper and more fun to road trip to W&L (3 hrs) than to go out there! After my son has visited this friend in DC, he has commented that he had a great time but is glad he doesn’t have to regularly spend that kind of money to have fun at W&L and that at W&L everyone can come out – there are no fake ids (not just illegal at W&L, but an Honor violation!!!), no cover or drink charges, and the party belongs to “them” rather than the public. </p>

<p>To each his own, but I feel pretty confident in saying that you don’t have to have a ton of money to have a great W&L experience.</p>

<p>@ Esquette: I am not sure I understood a part of your last post. Would drinking, or smoking, or smoking an illegal substance at W&L be considered an honor code violation? Does that make the campus dry? </p>

<p>I am not trying to be argumentative, I am sincere in my question. Surely kids drink or smoke pot on campus? How does that square with the Honor code. Or is it just Fake ID’s that are against the rules, but drinking is ok?</p>

<p>The party belongs to ‘them’, no cover or drink charges. So is the campus like some “friends” schools, where student activities are paid for by fees?</p>

<p>Curious… :?</p>

<p>Has anyone been notified about being a finalist or not? It seems like people knew by this time last year.</p>

<p>I just posted this on a related thread. According to the admissions blog on W&L’s website, notification letters were sent to the finalists today. Denial letters are expected to go out tomorrow.</p>

<p>Dad Wonders-</p>

<p>As an alum, and the parent of a senior boy and freshman girl, what Esquette was saying is that unlike larger school in bigger cities where much of the social life is centered around bars and clubs that cost money, at W&L the social life is by and large centered around parties at the fraternities and at the houses in the “country” in which the students live (with those parties largely financed by the fraternities). Except for certain “mixers” and formals, all parties are open to the entire campus. Thus, it is possible to have an active social life at a lesser cost than at larger schools in cities. Further, as the parties tend to be financed by the fraternities, it is really cheap for the girls. Of course, much of this activity is financed by fraternity dues, but they are pretty reasonable considering they include 3 meals per day, six days per week.</p>

<p>If you are not into the “party” scene, and like the outdoors, Lexington is just about as good as it gets for running, biking, kayaking, fly fishing, climbing, hiking, etc., and that is all free.</p>

<p>All of the school sporting events are free - they don’t even take up tickets (exept NCAA playoff events, where the NCAA makes them charge something).</p>

<p>And as to your question concerning honor violations, it is an Honor System - not an Honor Code, with no laundry list of what is or is not a violation. What is dishonorable or not is determined by the students - that is a major difference between the W&L Honor System and what may be present at other schools - the other difference is that the Honor System is entirely student run (the President of the student Executive Committee answers only to the Board of Trustees), and the Administration could not intervene even if it wanted to. While lying, stealing or cheating will likely constitute honor violations, that is not codified in the White Book that explains the Honor System. That said, using a fake ID is usually considered to be a form of lying. On the other hand, underage drinking has not been thought of as dishonorable (although it may be a student conduct violation, that will get you in trouble with the Student Judicial Board and placed on conduct probation, especially if it is going on in the dorms). While all of this may sound confusing, beleive me that it is drilled into the students during orientation week, and they are well aware as to what are the permissable boundaries of their conduct.</p>

<p>Thanks for the reply!</p>

<p>My son is in. My hands were shaking and couldn’t open the letter. Thank God. From Texas</p>

<p>I am a Johnson finalist, too. :)</p>

<p>Did you receive your finalist letter via FED EX or Postal?</p>

<p>I just got my letter…I’m a finalist! I was so excited, I literally started squeaking and jumping up and down (much to the decidedly unexcited chagrin of my 12-year old brother) </p>

<p>I live in PA, by the way, for those of you rapidly calculating postage-time trajectories.</p>

<p>Congratulations to you all guys! I applied to but my chynces are close to zero, so I’m just happy for you!</p>

<p>I got my letter today! My hands were shaking, so excited. Can’t wait to see you guys there!</p>

<p>finalist letter arrived at last! apparently they’ve reached the upper midwest. <3 i’m so excited.</p>

<p>My son called and told me he is a finalist. Honestly I don’t know much about this school.</p>

<p>Do some research and you’ll find that W&L is a wonderful, highly-regarded school. It is a tremendous opportunity for your son. His three day visit to Lexington in March will be a great experience for him, and he’ll easily be able to determine if W&L is the school for him.
Congratulations.</p>

<p>I received my letter today! I am so so excited to revisit campus and I look forward to meeting all of you guys! =)</p>

<p>wow…i got a finalist letter</p>

<p>I am more surprised than happy, i didnt think my stats would be good enough to get in, let a lone be a scholarship finalist (2080 SAT score)…i didnt even go for an interview</p>