Did we really think this type of sexual abuse/harassment was not happening in Hollywood or that Hollywood did not mirror our society at large and in fact magnify it? Are we “shocked” at the allegations and inuendo? For 30 years Harvey Weinstein hid that he was a HUGE a**? We didn’t suspect that Kevin Spacey was gay or at the least on the more homosexual side of the bisexual spectrum? We don’t suspect that child actors are more susceptible to sexual abuse, Corey Feldman has been lying for 10+ years? I think this whole jump on the bandwagon shocked/surprised act that we as a society portrary when these ugly realities/truths bubble to the surface are just as disgusting. The fact is we have always known and we simply turn a blind eye to it, we fiend outrage for awhile, a few things change by small measure and then we slip back into our silent complicity and really that is what we should be shocked about.
I don’t get the equivalence. Harvey Weinstein is accused of actual penetrational rape. He used his power to intimidate and harm the careers of those who did not submit. What Ted Nugent did with Courtney Love was also way worse.
Kevin Spacey was wrong, and inappropriate, and illegal, but not the same level of trauma suffered by the HW and TN victims.
From the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/31/hollywood-male-abusers-boys-gay-men-kevin-spacey
And more about Spacey, just last year:
https://www.boston.com/culture/entertainment/2017/10/31/former-boston-news-anchor-says-a-loved-one-was-assaulted-by-kevin-spacey
I agree that there is a big difference between what Spacey did and rape. What Spacey did was wrong but it doesn’t reach the level of Weinstein.
I don’t know why the gates have finally broken open. I’m just glad that they have.
They apparently decided to end after season 6 months ago, which makes sense if you’ve been following the story. But now production is suspended indefinitely and the loosely planned spin offs are in jeopardy too.
I had an interesting conversation with my close friend and her D who is visiting for a few days. Their closest friend couple eldest son’s girlfriend is the 1st actress who reported the butt touching by GHWB. Both my friend and her D ( both very active pussy cat hat marchers) think the way the gf went about it reporting it on instagram) was in terrible taste and was her way of looking for her 15 minutes of fame, They have known her for smany years now as the couple has been dating since college.
Too bad GHWB and his irresponsible handlers gave her a reason to do that then.
It is true that the women should have been protected from GHWB.
Having said that, I am going to pass on crucifyng GHWB like the other men have been. This assumes of course that he did not act the same way when he was younger and mentally fit.
Shhhh… don’t bring GHWB in here - the squabble over giving or not giving him a pass closed the HW thread. Let’s keep this going.
If an elder with dementia is, sadly, assaulting people because of their dementia, we don’t just ignore it. We don’t just say, “Oh, gosh, sorry about the puncture wounds, Grandpa is getting a little stabby.” Sexual assault by elders with dementia should be treated like any other kind of assault-- the person should be kept from assaulting people by their caregivers, so they don’t victimize unsuspecting people. That it wasn’t in this case argues that the family doesn’t treat sexual assault seriously.
I can’t understand how both an elderly guy in a wheelchair pinching a butt and someone committing rape are both classified as sexual assaulters. We need to better define the terminology.
This lack of definition is like the 18 year old with the 17 year old girlfriend being labeled a sex offender, along with the violent pedophile who rapes little children.
One of GB’s assaults happened 14 years ago. The dementia defense doesn’t hold.
Karma is catching up with Andy Dick too at long last. https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/10/31/16583374/andy-dick-sexual-harassment-allegations-history
Andy Dick has zero talent. Good riddance on many levels.
Lot of positions opening up:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/nprs-top-editor-accused-of-sexual-harassment-by-two-women/2017/10/31/a2078bea-bdf7-11e7-959c-fe2b598d8c00_story.html
Going to edit this to add: Who’d have ever thunk it?
Some rules
It is work. No personal relationships. Keep it professional.
If they are minors it is never okay
If you are in a professional setting and have any power over the other person do not attempt any type of personal relationship it is not fair.
You will be okay if you make passes at adults in non-professional settings as long as you keep your hands to yourself.
Please, please adhere to the above “suggestion.”
BBC had an article that more reports of being groped etc. by Spacey have surfaced, with a pattern similar to HW’s predatory behavior: he targeted under 30 folks.
I’m seeing more outrage that he mentioned at the same time that he was choosing to live as a gay man than that he molested a 14 year old. There is more concern that he is somehow smearing gay people than concern for this particular kid.