@gonzaga35 - I don’t want to throw the thread off track. I grew up in rural upstate NY. Now I live in suburban Philadelphia. Yes, two very different scenarios. But even beyond that - there’s so much difference in how the states operate. I find PA incredibly frustrating in a lot of ways. And so many things puzzle me - things that just seem normal to people here but that a New Yorker (no matter what their background) would never imagine in a million years.