The NYC bike path incident?

See… but you did not put boulders there prior to the incidents. I agree that large chunks of rock are much better looking that planters that hold dried out greenery and are used as trash cans, but if they were not in the budget, they were not installed initially.

I’ve seen new synagogues built with boulders all along the sides that are near the road or with access to the parking lot. That’s how we thought of it.

Many midtown buildings have barriers in front of the building. Maybe that’s why this terrorist picked this particular location.

It’s true that the park service or whoever will need to get onto that road to make repairs or do repaving. They could have periodic bollards, the kind that go up and down so you can drive over them if they’re down. They should have some form of barrier along the street side, even if it is heavy shrubbery and occasional trees. This is going to be part of our urban planning for the future. It has always been for sensitive places, but now that is a much larger definition.

I believe they do have planters blocking the street along the side of the path. But he came onto the path at an opening, there are several to allow cars to access piers - the bike path runs between the west side highway and the water and many piers are used as parks, a cruise terminal, city parking, etc.

Looks like he came on at Pier 40.

From a CNN article:

“He asked investigators if he could display ISIS’s flag in his hospital room, telling them he felt good about what he had done.”

I don’t think anyone is saying that, but it is not unreasonable for people to have compassion fatigue when we are bombarded with tragedy day in and day out.

In the past 68 days we’ve had 3 major hurricanes wreak massive destruction, wildfires destroy entire neighborhoods in minutes, huge earthquakes in Mexico, a horrific shooting from a hotel on a crowd of concert-goers which killed 58 and injured hundreds more, hundreds massacred in bombings in Somalia, half a million Rohingya refugees fleeing violence and persecution in Myanmar, 4 of our soldiers ambushed and shot down in Niger, an estimated 12,000 people die of drug overdoses, and a truck mowing down people on a bike path in Manhattan. How many other things not even listed here?

No one should blame anyone else if they feel like turning off the news and watching puppy videos.

Seeing as my dog just died, I can’t even watch those. :o3

Thinking either I just turn the news off entirely, or only watch pre-recorded happy shows. It’s just about time for Christmas movies. I really am to the point where I just can’t bear to watch one more awful tragedy happen. I turned off the tv for a long time right after 9/11. When all those firemen got killed, I just couldn’t watch it any more. So many terrible things going on in the world.

Just heard something happened at a Walmart in Colorado.

I understand feeling numb. I understand being overwhelmed. I understand turning off the news - probably a mentally healthy thing to do now and then.

I just really hate the comparisons I see sometimes - body counts or pints of blood shed should not be the measure of how we are affected. Each one is a tragedy.

It’s ok to not agree. We are all affected differently. Depending on the situation, the city, etc. I’ll admit to not understanding each angle presented here…but ok, I’ll respect it.

I’m hoping it’s a really good sale you’re talking about. :open_mouth:

Now I really want to leave the tv off.

Nope. Not a sale.

http://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/01/thornton-shooting-walmart/

I can only watch so much then I have to tune out for my sanity. I sometimes go days without watching any news and only will read the newspaper.

I am hoping its a fight over the half-priced day-after-halloween candy.

Last victim identified. 23 yr old recent Skidmore grad and a native New Yorker. My heart hurts for his mom.

One weird thing popped into my head - how much harder it’s likely to get to rent a truck.

I rented exactly that type of truck for an hour in August to help D move some furniture. They wanted proof of insurance. I had a USAA card with my account number, but it didn’t identify the account as specifically auto insurance. It was after hours so we couldn’t call them. I had to call H and have him email me a copy of our in-car insurance proof and they looked at that on my phone and said OK. (D’s in-car insurance proof didn’t count since she is underage to rent that truck). I’m sure they’ll be asking more questions in the future.

^Like what, though? Are you planning on mowing down a crowd? Are you associated with ISIS? Are you a Muslim?

How are you going to get anything useful by having truck rental agencies ask someone more questions?

A much more deadly terrorist attack using a truck already happened in the US in 1995 (168 dead).

^^The NYC police put an outreach program in place awhile back, where they work with truck rental companies and educate them on what things may be suspicious

Just what we were discussing yesterday - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/nyregion/manhattan-terror-attack-bike-path.html?_r=0

Stores like Home Depot are stuck. They will get sued for their truck being used. Ask too many questions and they get sued by CAIR or the ACLU.