<p>I just read that Scott Fitzgerald, Ernest Hemingway, Eugene O’Neill, William Faulkner, Jack Kerouac and Brendan Behan were all alcoholics and depressed!</p>
<p>So why should we read their stuff, when it didn’t even make THEM happy??</p>
<p>Just a little side thought :)</p>
<p>^ I started drinking really young, so I had a lot of experience before I was of age. My first time drinking at 13, I had alcohol poisoning and passed out in the bushes at my high school. My legs were literally the only part of my body you could see. They had to call an ambulance after I vomited in the principals office… </p>
<p>Today, my tolerance is so high it’s scary. I think it’s because I’m anxious as hell, so it counteracts the alcohol. Or it could be that I come from a long line of hicks and alcoholics.</p>
<p>I haven’t seen a lot of what Carl Sagan did. If I was exposed to him as a kid I would have loved it. I need more math to make it interesting now.</p>
<p>^ I hate math. :)</p>
<p>^ i hate math TOOOOOO!!! 
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<p>^ zomg soulmates! So much in common! hahaha</p>
<p>^ lol get in line 
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<p>^ I’m sorry you guys hate math. It makes everything make a lot more sense because complex things are really hard to explain qualitatively.</p>
<p>Carl Sagan does have math in his books, i just skip it until he explains what he said with the math.</p>
<p>There are actually some really famous physicists that weren’t very fond of math themselves, Farad is who I’m referring to. But man, without math you limit your ability to do a lot of cool stuff. Math introduces so much certainty when making predictions.</p>
<p>@jane psh player</p>
<p>@emp what sorts of complex things? Only engineering-related things, right? Surely you do not hope to explain hate, love or fear with math! haha</p>
<p>@solidblu Not urban enough for me. The cows were a huge turnoff lol. I love UCSD. UCLA is also a very nice campus, IMO. Haven’t seen Berkeley. USC is a nice campus as well.</p>
<p>And yeah alcohol is crazy. Imo it’s just as bad as some of the “bad” (read illegal) drugs if you abuse it. Now I try to do everything in moderation. Sometimes it doesn’t work but I try I get your binge drinking. It happens . . . haha I’m never drinking tequila ever again.</p>
<p>^I HATE math. My brain just isn’t set up that way.</p>
<p>@Solid I think someday we’ll be able to, once neuroscience advances far enough. But for now, no, humans are a really complex a mystery.</p>
<p>I think you guys could like math, but I’ve always said that math isn’t an innate ability on the order of something like socializing (I have nothing to back this up). At the very least, there is more psychological motivation to be social than to play with numbers.</p>
<p>@emp lol so sad 
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<p>@enchanted I actually liked the cows, I never really liked the city that…at least I never liked the suburb that much… haha, I think thats why davis appealed to me. If I were out on my own, however, in an exciting city like san francisco or los angeles, I may have a lot more fun :)</p>
<p>EmpathyInAnarchy-read Sagans The Dragons of Eden, speculations on the evolution of human intelligence.
Carl writes as an amateur neuroscientist (math included) and adopts Paul MacLean’s concept of the triune mind.
we have a lot of biological neurological information that has been discovered to say that humans are less a mystery than previously thought.</p>
<p>@Solid What’s sad? A an abundance of certainty is nothing to be sad about. Are you one of those people that don’t want to hear how a rainbow is formed, in an attempt to preserve your “smallness” with respect to the universe?</p>
<p>@Sis Most modern brain theories are highly conceptual, and to that extent are not solved mysteries in a quantitative sense. I cannot predict what you’ll do tomorrow, specifically, with any certainty is what I mean.</p>
<p>bro- we have biological anthropologists and neuroscientists and others who study the evolution of humans to predict and track the progress of where and how we will be in the future. and they do use quantitative blah blah blah to prove their theories.
calculator nerds arent the only ones who do quantitative crap.</p>