***The official University of Michigan Chances Thread:***

<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): Letters of Science
[ *] SAT: 2000 (740 m, 620 w, 640 cr)
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): 760 math2c, 750 ushistory, 730 bio m
[ *] ACT: N/a
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: i dont really know what this is or how to calc. but my unweighted is 3.37 (low…i know) because of my school’s competitiveness and i also messed up soph year…
[ *] Rank: top 20%
[ *] Other stats:
APs ( Bio:5, US:4, Euro: 3, Compsci A and AB both 2)
6 consecutive years Superior for Solo and Duet in Junior Festival (piano)
Advanced Level (level 10) in MTAC all levels have been honors in playing and theory (piano)
CSF
NHS candidate (not sure if I got into it yet)
Senior Courseload:AP Government/AP Econ Macro, Marching/Symphonic Band, AP Calculus AB, AP Japanese, World/British Lit, AP Physics B
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):
10 years of Piano
6 years of Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Talented Youth summer program. (Took all 6 years of science related classes at universities 3 of them have to do with Biology (Intro to Biomed, Genetics, Genomics)).
100+ hours of community service
Tutor kids in instruments (French horn, trumpet, trombone, clarinet, piano)
4 years of Jazz Band
4 years of Key Club
3 years of Marching Band (Assistant Historian, French Horn Section Leader)
2 years of Belief Society (Treasurer)
1 year of Science Days</p>

<p>[ *] Essays: pretty good
[ *] Teacher Recs:good
[ *] Counselor Rec:good
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): my entire mom’s side of the family went there including cousins and my dad
[ *) Location/Person: ?
[ *] State or Country:California
[ *] School Type:Extremely competitve public school, ranked 3rd in CA
[ *] Ethnicity: Asian
[ *] Gender: Female
[ *] major strength/weakness: ECs/gpa and sats
[ *] Other Factors/questions: should i retake my SATs even tho i dont think i can study over the summer</p>

<p>thanks in advance! :D</p>

<p>^
Reach
you’re GPA is too low.</p>

<p>CLC2513…Perhaps blackpen is fair in his assessment of reach but the rank of your school and the fact that it ranks high in CA which has a reasonable rep for rigor makes up for your GPA to some extent. You’re highly focused interest in both science and music leadership give a nice quality to your profile. I don’t know anything more than anyone else on these boards, but if you can show an increasing trend in GPA, explain sophmore year issue, write stellar essays and get fab recommendations, I kind of like your chances! So don’t despair. Just know you do have a bit of a area to overcome and make sure you’re clear in your application about it!
Best wishes,
k</p>

<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): LSA
[ *] SAT: 1810 (will retake)<br>
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): math 1-610
[ *] ACT:
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 3.5
[ *] Rank: Not sure, somewhere around top 20%
[ *] Other stats: AP French-3
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc): Treasuere of NHS, Founder/Co-President of Amnesty International, Founder/Co-President of Movie Club, Leader of freshmen program, volunteer at summer school every summer, over 500 service hours
[ *] Essays: I hope well!
[ *] Teacher Recs: Great
[ *] Counselor Rec: Great
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): umm…auditory processing disability? would play intramural sand volleyball?
[ *) Location: Chapel Hill
[ *] State or Country: North Carolina
[ *] School Type: public, around 800 students
[ *] Ethnicity: White
[ *] Gender: Female
[ *] major strength/weakness: Strengths: Essays, Recs, Extra Currics. Weaknesses: GPA
[ *] Other Factors/questions: Next year I’m taking a french class at UNC-Chapel Hill. I don’t know if mentioning that i have auditory processing disability is worth anything?</p>

<p>College (LSA, engineering, etc.): Ross preferred
SAT: 2000 - not going to send
SAT IIs: 760 math2c, 670 ushistory retaking for 700+
ACT: 33, retaking for 34+
Unweighted GPA: 3.82, 4.23 weighted
Rank: 56/950 probably higher this coming school year
Other stats:
11 APs by graduation, 5 APs senior year</p>

<p>Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):
DECA- (11,12) VP- Went to nationals in Accounting Applications
Students Organizing Community Outreach (11,12)- Secretary
Will likely start a ping pong club this year and I have several table tennis awards
Youth group at my temple(9,11,12) help with various community activities
Habitat for Humanity(11,12)
NHS(11,12)
member of Mu Alpha Theta(11,12)
Volunteer at an assisted living facility(11,12)
Volunteer at my city’s therapeutic recreation for kids(9,11,12)</p>

<p>Essays: pretty good
Teacher Recs:good
Counselor Rec:good
Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): none
State or Country:Texas
School Type:Extremely competitve public school
Ethnicity: Asian
Gender: Male
major strength/weakness: weak gpa</p>

<p>And I skipped tenth grade, don’t know how they view that.
Any suggestions appreciated</p>

<p>LolyGAGHa (when I saw that I thought of Lady Gaga, because I love Lady Gaga :D) anyways: </p>

<p>Both your SAT and GPA are quite low, granted you can retake the SAT without Michigan knowing. But at this GPA you’re in the top 20% which makes me believe that your school curriculum is challenging such that not many people earn As or your student population isn’t very hard working (But being in Chapel Hill, I’m gonna guess it’s the former). However, your ECs are quite impressive, and I’m sure you’ll have some stories to share in your essays. Invest a great deal of time on your essays and start writing them if you haven’t already, and apply ASAP. </p>

<p>Chances: Reach</p>

<p>Elasticity, I’m going out the door right now, so I’ll chance you when I get back.</p>

<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): LSA
[ *] SAT
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent):
[ *] ACT:29 (retaking)
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 3.35
[ *] Course load (# of AP/IB/H, special courses, etc.):55 transferable (community) college credits while in highschool (15 including several advanced chemistry, biology and english classes)
[ *] Rank:
[ *] Other stats:
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc): Phi Theta Kappa member, Student Council, School Ultimate Frisbee team
[ *] Essays: ok
[ *] Teacher Recs:not sure
[ *] Counselor Rec:excellent
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): Legacy
[ *) Location/Person: Michigan, Ypsilanti
[ *] State or Country:United States
[ *] School Type: Competitive Charter
[ *] Ethnicity:Black
[ *] Gender:Male
[ *] major strength/weakness: Low gpa; 3.35, But I’ve taken nothing but college courses for the past year and a half
[ *] Other Factors/questions: </p>

<p>I had a terrible freshman 1st semester (2.8 gpa) which lowered my gpa (even though it’s only a 3.61 without that semester)</p>

<p>Elasticity: </p>

<p>Your grades are good and you have a strong, rigorous course load (11 is a high number). Based on the opportunities that your school offered and your school rank, I’m going to assume that your high school was competitive, and that will play a factor. Your SATs are good for Michigan, though the score is probably not representative of your skills and abilities. Your ACT is great for Michigan and may even put you in the running for the Honors Program … you definitely don’t need to retake it unless you’re aiming for some higher caliber schools. Your ECs are OK for UG admit, but really they’re not terribly important for UMich unless you’re shooting for merit scholarships or the preadmits (in this case, weak). Other than that, I really doubt that skipping 10th grade will matter that much, but congrats on doing that. </p>

<p>Chance: Safety match, reach for Ross due to weak ECs</p>

<p>Solard: </p>

<p>Your GPA is a tad low for UMich, but you are URM so that will help, and you indicated that you have taken college classes, so admissions will understand that your prep for college has been rigorous. Also playing in your favor is the fact that you demonstrate an upward grade trend, and even better is that UMich drops your freshmen grades, so “Yay!” :slight_smile: Your ACT of 29 is within UMich’s mid-50 percentile, but if you want to retake it, that is OK. Your ECs are weak, but they’re really not that important for UMich UG admissions. I see that you’re a legacy, but I’m not sure how that will play a factor. </p>

<p>My recommendation is for you to apply ASAP, preferably in mid-September to boost your chances. The earlier you apply, the better your chances of admission. </p>

<p>Chance: Weak match — URM status/upward grade trend will help</p>

<p>**I will also note that UMich seems to have admitted and enrolled too many students this year, so that may affect admission next year, because they may be more selective, but that’s not clear at this point.</p>

<p>In response to the post above. Sometimes I feel like I’m a product of Affirmative Action because I got into U-M with such low stats. I think Solard has a chance but its a reach. I’d say 20% chance or so.</p>

<p>UMich doesn’t count your freshman year, so Solard would have a 3.61 GPA. I’d say he’s a match.</p>

<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): engineering
[ *] SAT: 2040 (not sending)
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): U.S.: 710
[ *] ACT:30 (retaking in Sept)
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 3.5
[ *] Course load (# of AP/IB/H, special courses, etc.):AP Physics C, AP Calc BC, AP Eng Lang and Comp (5), AP US (3), AP Eng Lit, AP Bio
[ *] Rank: Not sure
[ *] Other stats:
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc): editor-in-chief of community newspaper (4 years), internship with electrical engineering company (specializing in superconductors)(1 summer), president of H.S. engineering club, Junior State of America (2 years), varsity fencing (2 years), varsity cross country (1 year), MUN (attended conferences at Yale and UN HQ)(3 years), volunteering at local soup kitchen (200 hours)
[ *] Essays: good
[ *] Teacher Recs:don’t know yet, probably will be good
[ *] Counselor Rec:don’t know yet
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.):
[ *) Location/Person: Greater New York City Area
[ *] State or Country:United States
[ *] School Type: Private and then later transferred to competetive public
[ *] Ethnicity:South Asian
[ *] Gender:Male
[ *] major strength/weakness: 3.5 UM GPA
[ *] Other Factors/questions: </p>

<p>I must note that between sophmore and junior year I transferred from a private school to a public. The reason I transferred was because the private school simply did not offer many courses in science and mathematics, rather it focused more on humanities and such. Also the private school seriously deflated my gpa. I had a UW UMich GPA of 3.0 my sophmore year in the private school. When I switched to public school my non- Umich gpa for Junior year was an UW 3.8 and a 4.0 Umich gpa.</p>

<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.):
LSA - Honors hopeful, it sounds amazing!!!</p>

<p>[ *] SAT:
About 2200 with all subscores above 700</p>

<p>[ *] SAT IIs (if sent):
None sent yet, but I’ll list all in chronological order - about 780 Biology M, 650 Literature (retake???), 770 Chem, 780 Math II</p>

<p>[ *] ACT:
About 33 Composite and 31 Writing, with all subscores above 30</p>

<p>[ *] UM unweighted GPA:
Upward trend, somewhere above 3.9 (straight 4.0 if freshman year doesn’t count =D)</p>

<p>[ *] Rank:
Top 10%</p>

<p>[ *] Other stats:
All 5’s on several common AP’s in some sciences, humanities, and histories - hardest course load possible without skipping prerequisites</p>

<p>[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):
A few hobby and serious science EC’s from both early and late starts - 1 presidency and a few memberships</p>

<p>[ *] Essays:
I’ve looked at the questions, but I haven’t even started yet. Crazy summer : P. Should I start ASAP?</p>

<p>[ *] Teacher Recs:
Expecting 1 good and 2 OK</p>

<p>[ *] Counselor Rec:
Good</p>

<p>[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.):
Nope</p>

<p>[ *] Location/Person:
Rising Senior</p>

<p>[ *] State or Country:
In-state</p>

<p>[ *] School Type:
Top 10 public in Michigan</p>

<p>[ *] Ethnicity:
Asian</p>

<p>[ *] Major strength/weakness:
–Speed reader
–Book nerd - will work hard to put together my best possible graduate application package three years from now, but I can’t interview for my life : ( Need to work on interpersonal skills?
–Easily distracted by video games : D</p>

<p>[ *] Other Factors/questions:
Violinist in youth orchestra, hospital volunteering, a summer of biomedical research, and a few awards</p>

<p>–Aspiring biomedical researcher - quality of U of M undergraduate research? Research opportunities over the summer?
–Would like to keep options open… how are the hospital volunteering opportunities at U of M?
–Above $100K income per year, but my parents are still stingy - chances for financial aid (merit/need)??? Thanks!!!</p>

<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.): LSA
[ *] SAT: ~
[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): will take in octobre
[ *] ACT: 36 (12 on writing)
[ *] UM unweighted GPA: 4.00
[ *] Rank: 4/490
[ *] Other stats: 5’s on 4 AP’s
[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc): Couple presidencies, team captainships (math, academic, debate)
[ *] Essays: ~
[ *] Teacher Recs: Extensive interaction, one as director, other as Math team coach
[ *] Counselor Rec: Extensive interaction as a class officer
[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.): Father is alum?
[ *) Location/Person: Rising Senior
[ *] State or Country: Illinois
[ *] School Type: Public
[ *] Ethnicity: East Asian (Chinese)
[ *] Gender: Male
[ *] major strength/weakness: ~
[ *] Other Factors/questions: Build boats, Ron Paul campaign volunteer</p>

<p>So, good chances, or potential victim of Tufts Syndrome?</p>

<p>^^Convicted rapist, arsonist, murderer, robber?
Then reach.</p>

<p>Convicted for burgulary, B&E, menacing?</p>

<p>Match</p>

<p>Lesser crime?</p>

<p>Safe match</p>

<p>No crime?</p>

<p>Stop wasting our time, don’t apply, go to Harvard.</p>

<p>Burdish, your stats are awesome but make sure you make other apps. if you’re looking for lots and lots of merit…I have heard of phenomenal kids like you who do not end up with a pile of merit $ at U of Mich and you’re not likely to access much, if any, need-based aid. (That’s because 52% of students have higher than a 3.9 average, for example…) There is the Shipman, which is full ride if you make the final cut. Not a ton of those. There are also the Michigan Tradition and Michigan Experience awards, which are $10,000 each but are often used for underrepresented areas (eg. maybe an urban school district…).
Just wanted you to know now to make sure you apply to fiscal safeties too if finances are an issue just to be on the safe side. (And for harvard, you’d still be 1 in 10, I’m afraid…that’s just how those numbers run : ) So don’t take it for granted but if you can write an essay and haven’t alienated any of your recommenders I’d say you’re a strong match.</p>

<p>I have a question. I plan on applying for transfer in the fall, and in college I fell like I have excelled. I will post all my credentials if needed. But, in high school I didn’t do that great, and my SAT score is low (1620/2400). When I spoke to a Michigan Representative, she said don’t retake the SAT because it was designed for high school students. But I feel that I can score higher if I retake it, and I feel my only weakness in my transcript is my high school record, and my SAT. How important is SAT scores and high school transcript if I completed 2 years of college? Should I disregard what the Michigan representative and retake the SAT anyways? I am also out of state and applying for the engineering program.Thanks for help in advance.</p>

<p>ab2013,</p>

<p>In the little time that I have left, can you suggest anything that will boost my EC’s?
I’m already volunteering regularly at two places, so I don’t think volunteering more will necessarily help much.</p>

<p>[ *] College (LSA, engineering, etc.):
LSA</p>

<p>[ *] SAT:
1830 :S ( I will prob only submit my act)</p>

<p>[ *] SAT IIs (if sent): math2:790</p>

<p>[ *] ACT:
29 Composite and 31 Writing</p>

<p>[ *] GPA:
3.93</p>

<p>[ *] Rank:
5</p>

<p>[ *] Other stats:
ap stats (5), ap macro (4), ap micro(5) </p>

<p>[ *] Subjective (ECs, special circumstances, etc):
ECs: Cricket captain (6 years club, 2 years international); 1st place regionally. 2nd place internationally
Basketball (4 years); 1st place regionally, 3rd place internationally
MUN (4 years); ambassador, delegate, main submitter
NHS (2 years); member and head of tutoring
Amnesty international (2 years); vice president and activities director
Forensics and Debate (2 years); serious duet acting and oratory speaking</p>

<p>[ *] Essays:
should be done by late august… Should be fairly good</p>

<p>[ *] Teacher Recs:
Expecting 2 great ones</p>

<p>[ *] Counselor Rec:
Really good</p>

<p>[ *] Hook (legacy, recruited athlete, etc.):
international cricket played (is this a hook??)</p>

<p>[ *] Location/Person:
Rising Senior</p>

<p>[ *] State or Country:
Kuwait (middle east)</p>

<p>[ *] School Type:
private</p>

<p>[ *] Ethnicity:
Asian</p>

<p>[ *] Major strength/weaknesses:
athlete??</p>

<p>Plead chance me! Thanksss</p>

<p>someone chance me plz??</p>