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<p>You mean put your brain in an artificial body?</p>
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<p>[Flowers</a> for Algernon: Daniel Keyes: 9780156030304: Amazon.com: Books](<a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Flowers-Algernon-Daniel-Keyes/dp/0156030306]Flowers”>http://www.amazon.com/Flowers-Algernon-Daniel-Keyes/dp/0156030306)</p>
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<p>We’re nowhere near figuring out the general interface. We’re just nipping at the edges right now.</p>
<p>that was a great movie.
( although i dont thinkIve seen it since i was 12)
[Charly</a> (1968) - IMDb](<a href=“http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062794/]Charly”>Charly (1968) - IMDb)</p>
<p>wouldnt your personality improve if your intelligence increased?
would we be talking about something that stimulates the frontal lobe?
if i dont put in for a higher IQ, can i get a little something to improve executive function?
;)</p>
<p>It’s a hypothetical…for us parents…</p>
<p>I read Flowers… I remember Cliff Robertson winning the academy award for best actor.</p>
<p>I am talking about something different than Charly; although, I loved that story.</p>
<p>I am talking about a permanent change in IQ. If a person’s IQ went up 100 points that person would be changed in oher ways besides IQ. Personality would be different . An all new you.</p>
<p>Actually there was a House episode where this guy had the ability to change his IQ about 50 points or more. He loved this girl when his IQ was low. She bored him when his IQ was high. The character chose the lower IQ. That’s true love. Of course that was just a tv show. </p>
<p>I think the ability to change IQ is going to happen.</p>
<p>Freud knew that depression was in the brain. Freud did not know where. How many years later, we know which areas of the brain affect depression. Now, Drugs work for many people to mask the depression. Not everybody. </p>
<p>We are just getting going on understanding the brain. </p>
<p>Anyway, BCEagle91, would you go through a procedure to rsise your IQ 100 points? Wake up to a whole new you. College confidential would bore the crap out of you. :)</p>
<p>I don’t know why your personality would improve? Two different brain functions. You have never met a smart …, emeraldkity4? </p>
<p>I promise they are out there. Aren’t there mass murderers that have high IQs?</p>
<p>I know people with huge empathy but low IQs. The part of their brains that affects empathy has got to be very large. Larger than a lot of people with higher IQs.</p>
<p>i dont thnk IQ is fixed and it also depends on the test & the tester.
There are so many different kinds of intelligence- you could have a genius IQ but not be able to drive a car or balance a checkbook. (Ask me how I know)</p>
<p>However i also equate increasing intelligence with increasing awareness & sensitivity.
It wouldnt make me more outgoing, but i think it would improve my personality by making me more aware of the impact of things i did/said.</p>
<p>“There are so many different kinds of intelligence- you could have a genius IQ but not be able to drive a car or balance a checkbook. (Ask me how I know)”</p>
<p>I think I read some stories from you about this. 
How do you know?</p>
<p>There are different kinds of intelligence.</p>
<p>I don’t believe in the concept of IQ. </p>
<p>I believe in the concept of curiosity. The more curious you are, the smarter you are.</p>
<p>That’s where the parenting/environment come in. I don’t think by teaching our kids stuff we make them intelligent. I think by stimulating them to find stuff interesting we make them intelligent.</p>
<p>“Mini, no joking. Would you use chip implants in your brain if your IQ would increase 100 points but your personality would change. You would no longer be you. In other words, would you give yourself up for 100 IQ points?”</p>
<p>No, I’m a seller! 
(But I always advise keeping an extra mind in your backpocket, in case you need to change it.)</p>
<p>On intelligence (what I’ve written):</p>
<p>B"ut what’s really important is how, as parents, we can foster our kids’ intelligence. Before he became famous for his advocacy of homeschooling, John Holt wrote in How Children Learn that “The test of intelligence is not how much we know how to do, but how we behave when we don’t know what to do.”</p>
<p>In a world that in some respects is changing so fast (and in others seems so stuck in paralysis), this ability to operate in a new environment becomes ever more critical. I have come to believe that there are (at least) nine “elements of intelligence”, nine behaviors and qualities that impact our ability to flourish in the face of the unknown. I think that if you were to observe how people generally considered to be intelligent behave, you would instantly recognize these characteristics to a lesser or greater extent. And, if I’m correct, you’ll both begin to understand your kids better, and better think how best to nurture them for a world of which we ourselves have only the barest inklings:</p>
<p>• Focus and centering – The capacity to clearly understand and conceptualize what is known and what it is unknown, and to pare the latter down to its essentials is a mark of intelligence, as is the ability to center on the problem on hand rather than spinning our wheels.</p>
<p>• Drive and perseverance – Whether we are attempting to learn a new violin sonata, master a difficult gymnastics move, or solve a mathematical conundrum, success is unlikely without inner drive and a willingness to stick to it until the goal is attained, knowing that once that waystation is reached, there will be further mountains to climb.</p>
<p>• Organization – Confronting the unknown requires the ability to organize intellectual, material, and human resources in a concerted, articulated way. Some of those resources will come from past personal experience, others from our analytical and creative abilities still others by drawing upon the expertise and abilities of others. But if we can’t organize it for ourselves, chances are we are not going to find the solution.</p>
<p>• Analytical ability – When we don’t know what to do, we often engage in a rollicking game of trial and error. In doing so we have to evaluate the results of our experience, narrowing the behavioral options from which we then can choose, and making decisions as to whether more information is necessary before an intelligent choice can be made. Analytical ability itself has two components: working memory – the ability to draw upon that which we already know or have experienced; and processing speed – the ability to readily run through all the possibilities to formulate the most useful hypothesis or elegant solution.</p>
<p>• Intuition – In life, as in science (and contrary to what they taught us about the so-called ‘scientific method’ in junior high school), exploration doesn’t start with either observation or hypothesis. There are endless universes of objects and phenomena to be observed, and scores of potential hypothesis for any situation, and the choice of which to explore, or which direction to proceed when faced with the unknown, is more often than not an act of intuition, which we build up as a result of increased experience.</p>
<p>• Creativity – Creativity is, in essence, the capacity to organize that which is already known or experienced in application to new challenges. We learn by analogy, to make connections among phenomena that might not seem inherently obvious, in confronting what is yet to be unearthed, discovered, understood, or created.</p>
<p>• Capacity to learn from others – Sometimes when we don’t know what to do, the best way forward is to draw on the resources of others, not just their experience, but in joint application to the problem at hand. Teamwork, leadership skill, the ability to listen well, the initiative to seek out mentors and learn from them, and the capacity to evaluate and make use of the best attributes of those around us enables us to solve problems with a far higher level of creativity that we might otherwise, in a synergistic pooling of intelligence.</p>
<p>• Flexibility, humor, and a sense of proportion – While we confront dangers in an uncertain world, the reality is that, in exercising our intelligence, we are rarely faced with life and death decisions. There are few lions in the forests, waiting to pounce as a result of a single misstep. The latitude for error – for learning – is usually quite wide. Intelligence requires that we pick up ourselves up with a smile when we’ve gotten off track, ready and willing to seriously yet playfully exercise our capabilities in facing the next set of trials we find along the way.</p>
<p>• Courage – Of all the components of intelligence - the ability to face-off and tame the unknown - courage is likely the single most essential, and perhaps the least appreciated. Without courage and a willingness to undertake risk, we draw back from new challenges, or we fall back into ruts, using the other elements of our intelligence in the same old ways. We become competent, perhaps, but dull. Without courage, we are less likely to trust our intuition, less likely to analogize creativity from past experience, and less likely to persevere.</p>
<p>But there is a tenth intelligence – empathy. There are clearly certain tasks that can’t be accomplished in the world effectively without it. A team leader cannot be effective without understanding why members of the team may be acting less than optimally, and requires a sense of what motivates different individuals to excel. A mentor, teacher, or parent cannot convey skills, tools, or information productively without an inward appreciation of how a child (or adult) will be able to receive them and act. In my experience, the same is true of people in business – good business people can listen intuitively to their clients, and can match their services to meet their clients’ needs and desires. Politicians in the best sense of the term require empathy to build consensus. Empathy makes up much of the currency of talented salespeople, doctors, nurses, social workers, pastors. Humbly, may I add writers? And putting aside individual proclivities for a moment, isn’t the degree of community-wide empathy one way to assess the true value of a community?"</p>
<p>@dstark: You might find Bradley Coopers Limitless interesting. He plays a character who tries a new drug that gives him a 4 digit IQ and turns him from a sloppy person into a sharply-dressed, neat-freak person. The drug also turned him from an unfocused writer into a trader that has the actual formula for pattern recognition allowing him to turn a few thousand dollars into $2M in a few days. This success led him to be recruited as an M&A expert.</p>
<p>I think intellectual curiosity is very important.</p>
<p>Mini, that is a very comprehensive list. I wish I read that list when I was younger.</p>
<p>What stands out on that list for me, because it isn’t talked about as much when discussing intelligence, is Drive and Perseverene, Courage and Empathy.</p>
<p>I mentioned empathy briefly before, not for kicks, but because I think empathy is a very important form of intelligence, because many people who are intelligent in some ways are not empathetic and that limits their abilities to see the world. Limits their ability to Act and react.</p>
<p>One of the biggest areas of intelligence is the ability to hold two opposing ideas in your brain. To be able to throw out a long held view when new information pops up is a sign of intelligence that is lacking at both the individual level and as a community. We are dumber as a society because of the inability of people to change their minds.</p>
<p>Recognition is also important. There are people that hold views that are detrimental to their lives. That is ok if they know it and want to sacrifice for the greater good or some other reason. It’s not ok if they don’t know they are hurting themselves by holding these views.</p>
<p>Lastly, because I have to go, the understanding of why we are told what we are told, who benefits by certain information, who really benefits…is a sign of intelligence.</p>
<p>Amazing, Mini. Thank you for posting that.</p>
<p>I agree mini, ^^^^ Thanks that was awesome!:)</p>
<p>I & BIll Gates have had this book on our reading list this summer.
[I haven’t read it yet because I’ve been watching reruns of The Closer- how about you Bill?](<a href=“Thinking, Fast and Slow — By Daniel Kahneman — Book Review - The New York Times”>Thinking, Fast and Slow — By Daniel Kahneman — Book Review - The New York Times)
It’s about how we make decisions.</p>
<p>An interesting read on the subject of intelligence is Howard Gardner’s “Frames of Mind: The Theory of Multiple Intelligences”.</p>
<p>^^^That was one of my parenting references.
I also liked Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman.
[Daniel</a> Goleman](<a href=“http://danielgoleman.info/]Daniel”>http://danielgoleman.info/)</p>
<p>krlilies, I have to check that Bradley Cooper movie out. Thanks.</p>
<p>Maybe, this is covered in Mini’s definition of intelligence.</p>
<p>Self awareness…that is kind of where I was going in the last post. If a person doesn’t understand him/herself, everything else breaks down.</p>
<p>The recommendations in posts 272, 273, and 274 look good to me. </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>Daniel Gilberts’s book, “Stumbling on Happiness” is a very good book too and a very easy read.</p>
<p>I’ve begun to think that people who use pauses and silence in their speaking to powerful effect are very, very smart. People who never shut up – not so smart.</p>
<p>:)…</p>
<p>Mine comes from my book “Dismantling the Inner School”. IF I ever get a chance, there will be a book on the 10 integrative elements of intelligence. (I contrast mine with Gardner’s, which I think are mostly a kind of pseudo-science.) (Goleman’s haven’t worked out in practice - in tests for it, they have found that prisoners, especially those imprisoned for violence offenses, have the highest degree of Goleman’s emotional intelligences).</p>
<p>Curiosity by itself is not covered in my list (though it would be divided among creativity and courage.) The reason for this is that only “measured curiosity” can be conceived of as an effective way of dealing with the unknown. Unbridled curiosity will have you eaten by the lion. ;)</p>
<p>I suppose I am ancient. No curiosity about unknown, it left my brain long time ago. Just want to enjoy every minute and if I do not, then it is a bad day. Entertainment became the focus of existance, and almost everything got very boring except for things that I truly love to do…the signs of very ancient age. Now I tell everybody, shop till you drop, watch TV, do whatever, while you are interested in these, it will not last forever…you will have to find new things to entertain yourself and it is not easy, some of us are lucky, while many will never find them.</p>