The Tennis Thread

Every crowd is for Roger and no crowd is ever for Djoker.

Roger has said he has no plans to retire and he is behind the Laver Cup which is going to debut in 2017.

The reason Serena is still #1 and winning slams is because the other women just aren’t good enough to beat her. When your #2 player is Halep what do you expect. None of the other players are mentally tough enough, either. Serena played like crap last year and they still couldnt beat her. She was on the ropes in many matches.

“Every crowd is for Roger and no crowd is ever for Djoker.”

The two are related emily. Most tennis fans who love Federer will tend to dislike (if not outright hate) Djokovic, and since the majority of tennis fans love Federer, and have done so since the mid 2000s, it is fair to say that the majority of tennis fans will also dislike, Djokovic.

It is important to understand the degree to which fans adore Federer. There are two reasons, either one on its own would suffice. First, he emerged as a dominant player in an era that did not have, for the first time in the Open Era, a dominant force. Connors dominated from 1974-1978, Borg dominated from 1976-1981, McEnroe dominated from 1980-1984, Lendl dominated from 1984-1987, Becker, Edberg and Wilander dominated by committee in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and Sampras dominated from 1993-2000. From 2000-2003, there was no dominant player. Federer provided a much needed anchor in a sport that had seemed to be drifting for a few years. Second, how can one not admire Federer’s incredible style and charisma? Very rarely did a player of such talent play with such grace and power at once, yet at the same time, acquit himself with affability an class? The only one I can think of is Borg, although sadly, he never seemed to get his off court life in order the way Federer has.

The few who did not particularly care for Federer welcomed Nadal’s ascent in 2008-2010 with gratitude and have been loyal to him ever since. Nadal’s style of play is completely different from Federer, but his effectiveness, attitude and class are, in my opinion anyway, just as appealing. I can see why so many love and support Nadal.

Djokovic, who did not really emerge as a dominant force until 2011, has always been greeted as the unwanted impostor. Everything he did was scrutinized and criticized, and his character vilified. Spectators cheer his double faults! LOL! I will not argue the merits of that perception. Since I never took to either Federer or Nadal, I found it easy to like Djokovic and personally find Djokovic’s game, and his attitude, as appealing as those of Federer and Nadal, but regardless, considering the loyalty that fans had bestowed on the latter two, Djokovic never stood a chance.

Ironically, it has served him well motivationally. He would not have been nearly as driven or mentally tough if it weren’t for the way most spectators react to him. It obviously affected him early in, especially in from 2008-2013, but since then, he clearly plays above it. Things have not changed. The majority of the tennis fans out there are still loyal to Federer…and therefore, it follows that they will also cheer for whoever is playing against Djokovic, now more than ever, as Djokovic appears to be in position to take down most, if not all, of Federer’s records. Unfortunately for Djokovic, he will always be detested by a large portion of tennis lovers.

The Serena vs. Angelique match last night was great to watch. No spoiler for those who recorded it to watch later.

I don’t think retirement is far off, but it would be odd to do it near the beginning of the season. And for someone of that stature, it is usually made known well in advance of their final ATP match.

Re: women’s final, Serena was flatter than she was against Vinci, but she looked far less upset - hardly stressed at all, even during the match. She seemed to congratulate Kerber with genuine warmth.

Just finished watching. Big congrats to Angie for holding her nerve after being broken. Always nice to see a new champion - especially against Serena!

“She seemed to congratulate Kerber with genuine warmth.”

Agreed Snowdog. Very classy on Serena’s part. She was genuinely happy for Kerber, and rightly so.

Maybe Serena is (ever so slightly) happy that the whole year won’t be focused on her potential year slam since now not possible! Very happy for Kerber.

Scmom12 I was thinking the same thing. Maybe it is a relief.

I agree with scmom12 on both points.

Serena v Kerber match is an example of why they play the NID matches.

Yet another Novak beat-down. Don’t think I’ve seen Boom-Boom cry before, however?

Hehe! Good old Boom Boom! Who would have ever thought he’d make a great coach. He really took Djokovic’s game to the next level.

Boring match.

@Alexandre re Post #1343

Yes, Djokovic’s record in 2015 against top 10 was incredible. There is no doubt in my mind that Novak, these days, is a better player than Fed was in ‘05-06. He would have to be, wouldn’t he? The competition between the “big 4” has taken the sport to a new level over the past decade. IMO, Federer is a better player today that he was in his “prime”. He has suggested as much. His serve is better today, he’s more aggressive with his forehand, he’s improved his volleying, he has 10 more years of tactical experience. I don’t see that his physical attributes have diminished very much. He still gets around the court extremely well, with impeccable footwork, and his cardio is rarely tested. He’s been injury free, thanks largely to his amazing physical coordination and economy of motion. He also seems to be motivated as much as he ever was (maybe more so). His confidence against the top players has taken a hit, to be sure, but let’s remember he was a world-beater against the likes of Roddick and Hewitt and a young Nadal in 2006 – not exactly the competition he’s faced lately. I’m not sure how anyone can be ranked in the top 3 these days, with the quality you see throughout the top 20, without a significant improvement from a decade ago. The recent loss against Djokovic isn’t suggestive of any deterioration in Fed’s abilities; it only shows how good Novak has become.

@Dunboyne Unfortunately Fed tore his meniscus. he had surgery yesterday.

Anyone watching the ME swing? The women seeds are dropping like flies - can’t even get past their first matches. It’s quite bizarre.

Did you see Federer’s “Spiderman” tweet? He looks like he is recovering well from his knee surgery.

I don’t follow anyone on Twitter. Can you post s link!

See if this works: https://instagram.com/p/BCJDeanAv5r/ The blocked out part is " Instagram" “.com” or try this link: http://www.foxsports.com/other/story/roger-federer-when-will-he-return-play-injury-indian-wells-french-open-022416

thx! Looks like he’ll be good to go soon!

Looks like Roger won’t be at Indian Wells. He just posted this: “The Rehab for my knee is going really well! I have now had a lot of great practices on the court and in the gym. As it is a long year, I don’t want to push it too hard and come back too soon. Thus, I will unfortunately not be able to make it back in time for the great event in Indian Wells but I do plan on playing in the desert next year. After consultation with my team, I have decided to enter the Monte-Carlo Rolex Masters. Thanks for the support and I will see you back on tour soon.”