<p>Does any one who went to Pre-Frosh remember what it was? For prospective students who are reading this, they were the “key” reasons how and why we got into Harvard. I have to say, that was the funniest part of the President’s Welcome.</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>Pre-frosh weekend was not only beautiful, but wonderfully fun and worth my weekend and Monday. Such a blast. I hope you all agree.</p>
<p>wicked smahht and wicked good and the all-rounders. this theory he presented in On Harvard Time as well</p>
<p>I wrote some notes:
<p>Every accepted student chosen for character and personal qualities</p>
<p>^What would be “OK”, “good”, and “great” examples of each?</p>
<p>The wicked smart: a national merit winner psats blablabal, intel science award first or second place, 800 sat math2, physics, biology and us history, all A’s in science subjects etc dazzling teacher recommendations in preferably science subjects, extra involvement regarding science, maybe research project etc, university classes. this person is a super scholar</p>
<p>The wicked good: an intelligent 1500+ SAT with brilliant grades and warm recommendations, and with one super talent, like the best oboe player in the US, had his or her own orchestra and show etc</p>
<p>Great all-arounder: high SATs, high grades, nice extracurricular involvement, shows character, warm recommendations presenting good and personal apsects of the candidate, this person does not really point out amongst the class but just a bit in the applicant pool, the person is good on every side of the application but not the super scholar :D</p>
<p>Thanks! :)</p>
<p>If you were a writer, would getting published be one of the second group?</p>
<p>It could, but depending on how big the publication is. Local, state, national or international…</p>
<p>Personally, I think that Reptil may be off ont he first two caegories. </p>
<p>On the wicked smart, if that list is a list options then it is too lenient, if it is inclusive then that is closer to a description of the applicant</p>
<p>On the wicked good, the 1500+ SAT is not part of wicked good. Wicked good is for a skill or talent; sport, music, debate, etc, etc. These individuals may not have as high an academic portion because their skill or talent is so significant</p>
<p>My daughter is one of their accepted all arounders; Valedictorian, 35 ACT, 790, 780, 740 SAT IIs, drum major, saxophone - marching, concert, jazz bands, dancer - 4 styles 7 hours/week, alpine ski coach - trained skier 12 years, NHS president, saltwater fisherman, homecoming queen, excellent interviews (invited back for a 2nd and then 3rd interview), excellent recs - didn’t see them but know what the teachers orally stated, quality community service, etc, etc.</p>
<p>Python - As for “would getting published be one of the second group”, I would say that it depends on the publication and level of recognition received.</p>
<p>Well, if you got a book published (not a short story in a magazine or newspaper), would it have to be a bestseller or else really good in order to be a hook?</p>
<p>guys we got in for god’s sake, who cares what category, we’re harvard students now and all that’s left is to know that you are special and you got in for a reason and when you go there you shouldn’t be intimidated by all the talent and ability. learn to find your place and excel. or maybe you could drop dean william a message and ask him, im sure he wouldn’t mind, he’s got all the time in the world, so do you… ^o)</p>
<p>Int - Python is not an accepted student. He/she is a future applicant.</p>
<p>Python - I think you have to access this yourself. I published book by a reputable publicist would probably start you in column two BUT out of this category Dean stated that they had about 2500 applicants in this group and took a couple hundred. SO still not a guarantee. The personal quality/characteristics are still required.</p>
<p>smoda61: I did not make any perfect examples, just made up some fast ones. I intended only to give him or her a picture how those categories look like.</p>
<p>Moreover, you could go and check out the interview with the Fitz on youtube.</p>
<p>Reptil - I think you over reacted to my response. On “wicked smart”, I actually asked for clarification of what you meant and, for “wicked good”, academic ability was not referenced for this accepted applicant, so I wanted to correct that.</p>
<p>Next, the OPs question was about the actual welcoming address which was similar but also different from the Youtube video. I was about 10 rows from the stage so I have a good feel for what was said and, strangely, I jotted notes. Though limited, I have them to reference.</p>
<p>As for you telling me to watch the YouTube, I just went and watch it again - the “wickeds” are never referenced. Though similar to Saturday’s address, it was not the same and even to some degree different.</p>
<p>smoda61: I actually meant for python38 to check out the video even though I was not clear on that point :D</p>
<p>Even though the wicked good doesn’t have to be scholars they still have to be qualified academically enough to attend Harvard, but not as heavy requirements as for regular applicants.</p>
<p>Even though it is not explicitly said in the youtube video and referenced as wickeds you can easily see that they are the same taken from what you guys mentioned before…</p>
<p>LOL, I was definitely a “wicked good”…assuming “wicked good” doesn’t require stellar test scores.</p>
<p>These are the descriptions (of course, not all-encompassing, just some examples) that Fitz himself used to describe the categories:</p>
<p>Academic Superstars: olympiad participants, some incredible academic feat. For example, a couple hundred of amazing math/science applicants get forwarded to professors on the admissions committee.</p>
<p>Your “Wicked Good” - top at what they do, be it music, sports, or even philanthropy. For music, Harvard has instrument rankings on a wall - for EVERY instrument. If you’re near the top of that list, that bodes well.</p>
<p>All-rounders.</p>
<p>I don’t know at what stage this process takes place though - for example, a wicked good could have already been ruled out by his/her test scores before this process takes place</p>
<p>Titan - What was (or is) your “good”?</p>
<p>Writing; I won a really big award for a portfolio I wrote and for the newspaper I edit, and I wrote an essay my Yale rep said was the best she’d ever read. Other than that, I had mediocre scores (2200 SATs with a 620 M), and while my grades etc. were good, my classes were definitely not well-rounded (only 3 yrs. science, only one math/science AP). </p>
<p>Thanks for noticing my name is “Titan” and not “Asian!” lol</p>
<p>Very nice. I am guessing that you do fit the “wicked good” category. Your answer should also help to give Python an example of writing excellence.</p>
<p>^Wow, that’s good. Thanks for giving me some idea of what to aim for :)</p>