Think Tank Ranks Schools

<p>For those interested in rankings, here it is:</p>

<p>Princeton first in The Consus Group’s university rankings</p>

<p>LOS ANGELES, California—Princeton University ranked first in The Consus Group’s annual survey of undergraduate universities. Harvard and Yale tied for second, with Dartmouth and The University of Chicago completing the top five.</p>

<p>The Consus Group generally analyzes contracts, industries, and companies. Occasionally, however, TCG displays its analytical expertise on other subjects of interest to the business and legal communities. Its university rankings are one of these periodic exercises.</p>

<p>TCG determined the nation’s best undergraduate universities using a sophisticated methodology. This approach canvassed numerous factors, including: published rankings, selectivity, placement and salary statistics, and class yields.</p>

<p>Published Rankings: A proxy for prestige, published rankings proved a useful metric for assessing a university’s reputation. To eliminate the vagaries of published rankings, The Consus Group incorporated both current and historical ratings from numerous sources. </p>

<p>Selectivity: TCG measured the quality of universities’ admitted candidates using SAT scores, high school GPAs, and the percentage of applicants admitted. Typically, the best schools attract many of the best candidates—providing another proxy for prestige. </p>

<p>Placement & Salary: Placement and salary statistics provided objective measures of universities’ performance placing their graduates. To reduce annual fluctuations in placement and salary statistics, TCG used current and historical placement and salary statistics. </p>

<p>Yield: Yield measured the percentage of admitted candidates actually matriculating to the admitting university—another indication of a school’s appeal. </p>

<p>While many university rankings fluctuate wildly from year to year, TCG’s methodology produces a stable, accurate picture of America’s best undergraduate universities.</p>

<p>About TCG</p>

<p>Founded by attorneys and management consultants, The Consus Group provides crucial intelligence about contracts, industries, and companies. TCG’s research products clarify complicated legal agreements, explain industry structures and relationships, and provide unparalleled competitive intelligence. TCG also provides complementary professional services, including customized contract and industry analyses.</p>

<p>The Consus Group’s intelligence products are state-of-the-art. TCG uses a sophisticated infrastructure to amass and process enormous amounts of information from many sources. This information is compiled in massive databases, dissected with powerful statistical tools, and synthesized by experts.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.consusgroup.com/news/rankings/colleges/colleges.asp[/url]”>http://www.consusgroup.com/news/rankings/colleges/colleges.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>1 Harvard University 1.000</p>

<p>2 Princeton University 0.975</p>

<p>3 Stanford University 0.946</p>

<p>4 Columbia University 0.926</p>

<p>5 California Institute of Technology 0.922</p>

<p>6 Yale University 0.913</p>

<p>7 Massachusetts Institute of Technology 0.877</p>

<p>8 Brown University 0.835</p>

<p>9 University of California, Berkeley 0.806</p>

<p>10 University of California, Los Angeles 0.785</p>

<p>11 University of Pennsylvania 0.784</p>

<p>12 Dartmouth College 0.776</p>

<p>13 Rice University 0.770</p>

<p>14 Duke University 0.755</p>

<p>15 Swarthmore College 0.740</p>

<p>16 Amherst College 0.735</p>

<p>17 University of California, San Diego 0.727</p>

<p>18 Williams College 0.720</p>

<p>19 Georgetown University 0.719</p>

<p>20 Cornell University 0.718</p>

<p>Wow, Chicago is down at 48th. Is there a reason for such a drop? Are they considering graduate or undergraduate studies?</p>

<p>Atlantic Monthly ranks top 10</p>

<ol>
<li>MIT </li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>California Institute of Technology</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Brown<br></li>
<li>Swarthmore.</li>
</ol>

<p>I can’t imagine why Chicago would be ranked so low…</p>

<p>Top 10 undergraduate programs - National Universities</p>

<ol>
<li> Harvard University (MA)
Princeton University (NJ)</li>
<li> Yale University (CT)</li>
<li> University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li> Duke University (NC)
Massachusetts Inst. of Technology
Stanford University (CA)</li>
<li> California Institute of Technology</li>
<li> Columbia University (NY)
Dartmouth College (NH)</li>
</ol>

<p>1 Harvard
2 Yale
3 Stanford
4 Cal Tech
5 MIT
6 Princeton
7 Brown
8 Columbia
9 Amherst
10 Dartmouth</p>

<p>1 Harvard University
2 University of California, Berkeley
3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology
4 California Institute of Technology
5 Oxford University
6 Cambridge University
7 Stanford University
8 Yale University
9 Princeton University
10 London School of Economics</p>

<p>Three threads saying the EXACT SAME THING? We get it! HYPS could be ranked #1-#4 in any order, really! You aren’t “proving” that Harvard is, and should always be, #1, because no university (and no university’s GRADUATE, for that matter) can be that arrogant.</p>

<p>Lets just make a thread dedicated to harvard. Byerly can own it and post WHATEVER he wants in it. :)</p>

<p>Do you ever get tired, Byerly? I’m getting tired…</p>

<p>Any thread devoted to rankings should not be focussed on one ranking alone, or particularly - in the case of the OP’s post in this thread - on the basis of an outdated ranking that has been since updated!</p>

<p>Just the facts. Interpret them - or mentally discount them - as you wish, but get the facts right.</p>

<p>FACT: Lysol kills germs.</p>

<p>FACT: byerly is a choade</p>

<p>The only ranking that matters:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=23393[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=23393&lt;/a&gt;
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/forumdisplay.php?f=44[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/forumdisplay.php?f=44&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>If you don’t agree . . . .you’re wrong!</p>

<p>In order, the top 5 toughest schools to get into are:</p>

<ol>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
</ol>

<p>this allie character has 4 posts, all of which relate to these rankings
seems a bit supsicious</p>

<p>Does anyone know the statistical basis for PR’s “selectivity rankings?”</p>

<p>Their 2005 book, “The Best 357 Colleges” has scores of lists - most based on non-scientific surveys where students rate their own school, without reference to other schools. (Ie, great drinking school, great library, etc.)</p>

<p>The “toughest to get into” list, exerpted above by the monomaniacal poster “allie”, seems to be based at least in part on these surveys, and in part (what part is not revealed) on “statistical data reported by the colleges.” What data we are talking about is not clear.</p>

<p>We are not told the size of the MIT survey pool, or the Yale survey pool, or the Oberlin survey pool - each of which passed judgement - in isolation - on their respective institutions.</p>

<p>What I don’t quite grasp is this: is MIT, then, the “most selective” largely because more MIT students than, say, Yale students, think their own school is “tough to Get Into”? This seems an odd way to compile rankings.</p>

<p>Byerly, I didn’t read your post because I cannot believe anything you write, but Yale was the most selective college last year, only admitting around 9%.</p>