Third Amanda Knox Verdict Due Shortly

<p>HarvestMoon1: what is YOUR explanation for the complete lack of DNA or other physical trace of Amanda in Meredith’s room, if she were engaged in a life and death struggle there?</p>

<p>“Knox did have an interpreter. Her name was Anna Donnino and she testified at trial. The “interrogation” lasted 2 hours and 30 minutes from 11:00 p.m until 1:30 a.m. Knox was offered tea during that time, as she had told police she had finished dinner about an hour before.”</p>

<p>So are you saying that it is complete lie that she was interrogated for days? That they got all the information out of the 2 1/2 hour interrogation? Or are you talking about the first time that she went in to be questioned, before they decided she was guilty?</p>

<p>"How many hours do you work a week? If you’re like almost everybody, you work 40 hours in five days. In the five days after the murder of Meredith Kercher, Amanda Knox was interrogated by detectives for 43 hours. Think about that for a minute. That’s not a number in dispute. 43 hours of sitting at a table being badgered by questions from detectives in five days. 8 hours a day for an entire work week. In a foreign country. In a foreign language.</p>

<p>Of even greater ignominy are the last eight hours of the interrogation. This took place from 10:30 p.m. until 6:00 a.m. All night. Why would detectives schedule an interrogation overnight? Detectives are for the most part different from other policemen in that their regular schedule is 8a-5p or 9a-5p or something similar. Sure, they get called out in the middle of the night, but all things equal, unless you are in a department like NYPD or LAPD where a skeleton crew covers the evening shift; normal schedules for detectives are not overnight.</p>

<p>But that night, Amanda was interrogated all night. And by not just one or two detectives, but by a dozen (12) detectives. Again, the police not only do not dispute this, but they have entered this evidence into court."</p>

<p>Is anyone disputing this version of the interrogation?</p>

<p><a href=“The Interrogation That Never Was by, Steve Moore”>http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/FBI7.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>“Is anyone disputing this version of the interrogation?”</p>

<p>Harvestmoon seems to think that her entire interrogation lasted only 2 1/2 hours.</p>

<p>goldenpooch, please–if you are going to post links, don’t make them CLEARLY biased sources like “injusticeinperugia.” </p>

<p>Sally, show me where he is wrong and then I will stop posting his links. Please provide evidence that contradicts his recollection of the facts.</p>

<p>This guy seems pretty credible to me.</p>

<p>"Steve Moore spent 25 years as an FBI Special Agent and Supervisory Special Agent. FBI work took him to more than 40 states, and to 20 foreign countries and U.S. territories. He has worked in the largest FBI offices and the smallest, working cases from remote Native American Reservations to car bombings of U.S. Embassies. </p>

<p>He spent 25 years in the FBI, much of it after 9/11/2001 investigating terrorist attacks in garden spots like Karachi, Pakistan, Jakarta, Indonesia and Zamboanga, the Philippines. Since retiring in 2008, his focus has been ensuring the safety of American college students abroad. He now consults with and trains universities on safe foreign travel, and work with a major overseas study consultancy group."</p>

<p>He wrote this book:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Special-Agent-Man-Terrorist-Helicopter/dp/0914090704”>http://www.amazon.com/Special-Agent-Man-Terrorist-Helicopter/dp/0914090704&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>ema, I hope this kind of thing doesn’t frighten you from traveling. Just know you’ll have to be careful in sensitive situations, and you are obviously aware of the potential for misunderstandings. That’s half the battle, I think.</p>

<p>@Consolation, I don’t think I ever suggested anywhere that Amanda was involved in any “life or death struggle.” Clearly, evidence suggests that Guede was the major player, but the testimony in the case raises a lot of issues which leads me to believe there is more to the story. </p>

<p>I think the most reliable information one can get on what witnesses said during trial is the english translation of the Massei Report. The Massei Report is basically Judge Massei’s findings and what specific testimony he relied on in arriving at his conclusions. Now whether you believe that testimony is up to individual interpretation. But either way, the testimony in its totality, does raise a lot of questions. Not every witness can just be dismissed as “not being credible.” So, the case is just not as black and white to me as it appears to be for others.</p>

<p>The two areas relating to DNA are DNA found at the scene and DNA found on the knife recovered from Sollecitos apartment. The knife was referred to as the “Double DNA Knife” because traces of Kersher’s DNA was found on the blade and Knox’s DNA was found on the area of the knife where the blade meets the handle. The knife DNA was controversial as to Knox’s - it was LCN or “low copy number” meaning it was such small amounts that it could not be tested twice as is the custom. Both parties stipulated at trial to the existence of Kersher’s DNA on the blade. </p>

<p>The DNA allegedly found at the scene included 4 drops of Meredith’s blood in the bathroom, 1 drop of just Amanda’s and 3 samples of Amanda’s blood mixed with Merediths. Then there are the Luminol prints which other posters have referred to. The Massei Report addresses them but it is so technical that I could draw no conclusions. The judge appeared to think they were relevant. As in every case that involves DNA, the defense raised contamination and secondary transfer. That’s to be expected, but in this case the judge did not see it that way.</p>

<p>I have no more definitive answers than anyone else, but I believe from the totality of the testimony one could reasonably draw the conclusion that there is more to this story.</p>

<p>The court announced today that the latest judge agrees with the guilty verdict. and an explanation is forthcoming in 3 months.</p>

<p>I don’t think there’s any need to ridicule people for their beliefs on either side, here. From what I’ve seen, there are enough holes in Knox’s story to raise some real questions. On the other hand, Moore makes an excellent point in suggesting that had Knox killed Kercher, there should have been a lot more evidence.</p>

<p>InjusticeinPerugia has some compelling evidence on it. But so does The Murder of Meredith Kercher, which comes to the opposite conclusion. From where I’m sitting, this isn’t so clear cut - although I tend to agree that there wouldn’t have been enough for a guilty verdict by US standards. </p>

<p>High profile cases are pretty unpredictable even in the US.</p>

<p>If anybody can find a bathroom that has no DNA of the people who use it daily, I want to know who their housekeeper is! I keep hearing about these drops of blood of Amanda’s but is there evidence she had cuts that would have bled? Where did this blood come from? Hmm, blood in the bathroom of two women who are both of child bearing age? Wouldn’t that be expected? </p>

<p>@busdriver, Amanda went with Rafaelle to police headquarters on Nov. 2nd as he was the one initially called in for questioning. She sat in the waiting room for quite some time. Rafaelle told them he could not confirm that Amanda stayed at his apartment the whole evening. This contradicted a statement she made to police at the scene, so they then called her in for questioning as she was sitting in the waiting room. That questioning lasted for 2 1/2 hours. Then she wrote out two statements and stayed at headquarters while they were translated and typed. She signed the final statements at 5:45 a.m. You can view them online. I believe she was arrested that morning and the police then went in search of Lumumba. Am sure there was additional questioning of her after her arrest.</p>

<p>The significance of the November 2nd interrogation is that this is where she lied and made up the story about Lumumba killing Meredith. Perhaps she was subjected to more lengthy questioning later on, but the lies were told on November 2nd. So no, the evidence does not show that she made up the lies after being interrogated for 40 some odd hours. My point is that there is still the open question of why all the lies?</p>

<p>Weren’t the two statements printed and signed on Nov 6 after 5 days of interrogation? The implication of Lumumba and the made up story happened on Nov 6 after 5 days and over 50 hours of interrogation.</p>

<p>She was interrogated for 6 hours on Nov 2.</p>

<p>I haven’t followed the case closely but I have to agree about her lying. What would drive you to implicate someone else? A lengthy interrogation alone won’t.</p>

<p>Has she said any lied when she was not being interrogated or in police custody? Those are the only lies that should count against her.</p>

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<p>Total crap, no offense. Many false fingers are pointed after lengthy interrogations. </p>

<p>People do strange and out of character things when they’re in highly stressful and/or abusive situations. </p>

<p>If you look at the interrogation techniques used by the Italian police, they resemble the techniques used by police in the old south in pre-civil rights times when police were trying to get confessions of blacks who they “just knew” had committed some crime the cops were investigating. </p>

<p>When you are being interrogated endlessly you will say just about anything to get the interrogation to stop including what your interrogators want you to say regardless of whether it is true.</p>

<p>How do we know for sure what happened in the interrogation room? Her story is troubling but the police deny it. And, elements of it we do know are untrue. I would imagine anyone being questioned about a murder is in a stressful situation so that seems a stretch of a defense for lying to the cops.</p>