"Those ECs are weak...."- So what's good?

<p>@theyoungguy</p>

<p>An EC is something that you do outside of school: an extracurricular. For some people this means varsity sports, others it means day care volunteering, and still others it may be rock climbing around the world. I put down NaNoWriMo as an EC, and I have known people who put down Bird Watching. The most important thing is that it is a) meaningful to you, so much so that you could talk about it in an essay or an interview for more than a minute and b) not school related. I mean AP classes do not count as extracurriculars as much time as they may take up</p>

<p>EC’s are important, but essays are more important than EC’s.</p>

<p>If you have a great essay, it can cover up for the weak EC’s and lack of major awards. Most kids who get into good write do an excellent job on their essays</p>

<p>Would these ECs be enough?
Mock Trial - lead witness 3 years (outstanding witness award), attended law academy (top 3 students from mock trial team, official member of GA state bar)
Science National Honor Society - 2 years
Mu Alpha Theta - 3 years (2nd place at regional)
School Leadership Team (20 kids chosen out of class of 836) (chosen out of those to be one of 5 to represent school in leadership conference)
Peer Leader (30 kids chosen out of class of 836)
Founder of Red Cross Club (30+ members)
Team lead for community outreach program
Fencing Varsity letter and multiple medals</p>

<p>Awards

  • Outstanding Witness Award
  • Recipient of PVSA all 3 years (national level gold)
  • MAT 2nd place at regionals
  • AP Scholar
  • National Merit with Commendation</p>

<p>Summer Work:

  • Intern under a Doctor for every summer
  • Upcoming summer doing lab research at Medical College of GA</p>

<p>Is it too random or good?</p>

<p>And many students have to work. So taking a difficult course load AND working three days a week leaves not a lot of time to do those necessary extracurricular activities.</p>

<p>Hahah, I agree!</p>

<p>LOL and I thought making varsity on tennis and having decent community service hours was good. But yeah, it’s anything that makes you different from everyone else.</p>

<p>How impressive is having a summer research internship in your intended major at a top research university?</p>

<p>Sameer1: not at all! Be proud of what you’ve done; I can see it is concentrated in the science and medical field. Besides, even if your dream school doesnt accept you, there is med school.</p>

<p>TheKongo: If you write well about it, of course it’s “impressive.”</p>

<p>Kongo, which research university?</p>

<p>University of Texas at Austin</p>

<p>EC’s need to show
1). Passion
2). Commitment to your passion
3). Helping the community (volunteering)
4). Self improvement (creativity) beyond what is expected for school</p>

<p>They need to tell a story of who you are, what you like, how long you stick with what you like (walk your talk).</p>

<p>They need to show that you can do more than school work, and that you push yourself above and beyond what is expected.</p>

<p>What is not impressive is a huge number of listings of EC’s. More important is to show you have self-insight, have found something that you really enjoy and stick with it.</p>

<p>There are some that join every club out there and attend here and there; others that seek out to create or so something that looks good on their application.</p>

<p>When you come down to it, think of this as a job application. Typically one page, you would list the highlights, something you can really have a conversation about. The topic must ignite you, push you, not be a box to check off to show you were involved in many activities.</p>

<p>More activies do not help.</p>

<p>A few very intense activities with focus are much better. </p>

<p>When you think of listing an EC, think about having a long conversation, or interview with questions of why you chose that EC, what you learned, what kept you going, challenges faced, issues that you overcame, lessons learned.</p>

<p>If you have a bucket list of EC’s, it will be difficult to start a conversation regarding the above, as it shows you jumped from one to another to another, perhaps to make your college application look good.</p>

<p>What stands out is what can tell the story, and long term no matter how big or small is often better than 20 or more items that are small and not as intense.</p>

<p>My daughter is an exceptional student, taking 4 APs this year (and ranked 8 in her graduating class) but she also has to work so she babysits and tutors in her spare time. She cannot go and pay $5000 to build a house in Ecuador, nor can she be on a sports team 5 days a week. She is working to save for college since we have little money. However, because of this she will not get into college, I assume, since she has not been busy finding a cure for cancer in her laboratory or writing an article that will get published in the NY Times. Sigh.</p>

<p>I think the best tip my guidance counselor gave to me was to do what you love, and life will cease to be a chore.
I think what colleges look for, not to be cheesy, is just that. They look for students with a strong background of passion and dedication. However that doesn’t mean you can’t make goals or have ten different things. You just need to stick with them, and make sure for the sake of the activities you lead AND for your own sake you do enough for each one to make an impact and do it the right way.
I come from a very competitive school, and the biggest problem in our school is monopolizing. So many kids are under the pressure of being a high achieving school that they join and run so many different clubs and organizations, and play varsity level sports that each club becomes severely underdeveloped.
This pressure to be perfect is why historians call our generation the “overachievers” because from day one we are all taught to be superheroes and life-savers, geniuses and scholars, athletes and champions. Yet the thing we end up overlooking is how to be ourselves. The tips of everyone is to follow your passions, yet if we had never learned to become on clones child nation-wide, we would all easily be able to follow what is unique to ourselves.
My goal in my school is to get kids to commit and lead. Learn to follow their passion and really come out as the shining stars. I think that is the goal for myself too.
I am that crazy kid with the supremely long list of extra-curriculars that honestly I forget. And I feel guilty. But I keep them all for all four years of high school, and don’t neglect them. It’s all time management.
So if your passionate find a way to do it. whatever “it” is. </p>

<p>Also to be honest, those kids with the impressive looking resumes are just the kids with impressive “looking” resumes. Impression is all about the way you word things.
Good Luck to all high schoolers in your searches and future endeavors!</p>

<p>would a lack of leadership positions jeopardize my chances at top colleges?</p>

<p>Yangmaster, what is your definition of top colleges?</p>

<p>Stanford, UC-Berkeley, UChicago, Northwestern, etc.</p>

<p>Hello everyone, pretty new to CC, and I was wondering how my EC’s look?
Right now my top school is UW Madison, I might apply to some reach schools also, but to hone in my search could I get some feedback on my EC’s?</p>

<p>Black Belt in Tae-Kwon-Do</p>

<p>Job as Marketing Intern and promoted to Farmers Market Team Manager for a Cheese Company
-Sold cheese at farmer’s markets, went to trade shows etc
- Managed a team of farmer’s market reps</p>

<p>County Youth Court Jury Member (actually tries county juveniles who break the law)</p>

<p>Youth Rep on County Board of Supervisors</p>

<p>Various Band awards like 1* at solo ensemble etc</p>

<p>FBLA Chapter President</p>

<p>2 year Class President</p>

<p>NHS member</p>

<p>Teaching Assist for “American Government”</p>

<p>Following are various awards:
2011 Conference Extemporaneous Speaking 2nd place
2011 English Student of the Month
2011 Business Student of the Month
2012 FBLA Regional Impromptu Speaking 2nd Place
2012 Conference Extemporaneous 1st place
2012 Business Student of the Month
2012 Social Studies Student of the Month
2012 FBLA State Impromptu Speaking 2nd
2012 FBLA National Impromptu Speaking Qualifier
2012 Forensics State-Scored 24/25 (Extemporaneous Speaking, Silver Medal)
2012 November Social Studies Student of the month
2013 FFA District Extemporaneous Speaking 1st place
2013 SCC Extemporaneous 1st place
2013 Regional FBLA Public Speaking II 2nd
2013 State FBLA Public Speaking II 1st
2013 National FBLA Public Speaking II Qualifier
2013 Forensics State-Scored 25/25 (Extemporaneous Speaking, Gold Medal)</p>

<p>I would like to think that a truly spectacular e.c. would be one you thought of from inception to completion. Is this train of thought correct?</p>

<p>I, along with a friend, am currently writing a cross-platform program somewhat similar to “Chess with Friends”, but will not be ad intrusive and will be able to support more than just Facebook (such as Gmail and Twitter), along with a host other features such as a timer. It’ll also be possible to play single player, with different difficulty settings for the AI. The logic of the chess game and AI (which I’m handling) will be programmed in Java and we’ll be using CSS and the latest features of HTML5 to design the app. </p>

<p>I’m doing this more because of my love and passion for programming than to put it on my application, but am wondering if it would be considered a good EC nonetheless for MIT, Cal Tech, UC Berkely, etc. – especially if it becomes somewhat successful in the Apple Store and Google Play.</p>